Posted on 02 February 2015 - 04:37 AM
idk how Dropbox actually works but something like this would be cool. The idea is to avoid staff not having videos when people come along to appeal anywhere after 48 hours from the ban. There's a million reasons that somebody might not appeal within two days, and then they're fucked when staff deleted their evidence. So my proposal is that whenever a mod makes a ban, they stick the video file in a Dropbox (or something else idk) and you keep that stuff in there for much longer even though the mods can wipe it off their own computers. Unless I'm missing something and there was a different reason to wipe old evidence other than storage?Posted on 02 February 2015 - 06:02 AM
Raw video files are usually at least 2 gigabytes in size which would take a long time to sync to a dropbox account. If we required mods to render ALL their recordings, then it would still be a couple hundred MB in size. It would still take time to sync to the dropbox account (which has limited storage unless you pay as well, and we'd need a LOT of storage space) minus the rendering time.Posted on 02 February 2015 - 06:15 AM
I disagree with the fact that there's a million reasons to not appeal within 2 days. Only reason is if something were to act up with the forums, and in which case the staff would obviously be more lenient if there was no evidence. There's a psychology factor with appealing to a ban. An innocent person will generally appeal the second they are banned. 2 days time eliminates any excuse someone can have. "Oh I had to go to bed" "Oh I had to go to school" "Oh I had to go camping on a 37 day trip and had to leave the second I was banned" <— Had that one used one time.Posted on 02 February 2015 - 01:06 PM
@BurntCactusAn innocent person might generally appeal the second they were banned, but sometimes stuff doesn't always go to plan. What happens when a trial mod records and reports it to a higher mod? The person might not even be online during the time of the ban, and they might simply not log on to know they're banned for another two days. There's no report thread which holds evidence and there's no reason for the trial mod to keep it. Then the banned guy doesn't even get a chance to see why he's banned.
Posted on 02 February 2015 - 01:12 PM
@SmellyPenguin is there a more viable option?Posted on 02 February 2015 - 06:10 PM
Hivlik wrote
An innocent person might generally appeal the second they were banned, but sometimes stuff doesn't always go to plan. What happens when a trial mod records and reports it to a higher mod? The person might not even be online during the time of the ban, and they might simply not log on to know they're banned for another two days. There's no report thread which holds evidence and there's no reason for the trial mod to keep it. Then the banned guy doesn't even get a chance to see why he's banned.
Posted on 02 February 2015 - 06:19 PM
ok what if the guy that gets banned was playing on his brother's computer and his brother tries logging in four days later?Posted on 02 February 2015 - 06:52 PM
Hivlik wrote
Would most likely get accused of lying with the typical "brother hacked" story.
Posted on 02 February 2015 - 07:30 PM
Seems like a plausible, or, at least, possible story, no?Posted on 02 February 2015 - 08:02 PM
Hivlik wrote
In the event that he admitted to cheating and/or there was gcheat logs to prove he was cheating it would be the whole "Your account, your responsibility" scenario. There really isn't much excuse to not appeal within 2 days. The brother stories are so far fetched most of the time it's hard to believe one even if it was genuine. I'll put it this way, during the time I was staff I got to know Archy pretty well, and he has a gift of being able to sniff out a cheater 10 miles away. He would also rather have a cheater on the server, then an innocent person banned. The one thing I know is that if he thought there was innocent people getting banned and not being able to appeal, he would change the system. You'll commonly see the question being asked on appeals "Why did you not appeal within 2 days time?" although rarely the case, there are exceptions made to the rule from time to time. I have a great deal of faith in the way the Badlion staff team works.
Posted on 03 February 2015 - 03:36 AM
BurntCactus wrote
Hivlik wrote...
In the event that he admitted to cheating and/or there was gcheat logs to prove he was cheating it would be the whole "Your account, your responsibility" scenario. There really isn't much excuse to not appeal within 2 days. The brother stories are so far fetched most of the time it's hard to believe one even if it was genuine. I'll put it this way, during the time I was staff I got to know Archy pretty well, and he has a gift of being able to sniff out a cheater 10 miles away. He would also rather have a cheater on the server, then an innocent person banned. The one thing I know is that if he thought there was innocent people getting banned and not being able to appeal, he would change the system. You'll commonly see the question being asked on appeals "Why did you not appeal within 2 days time?" although rarely the case, there are exceptions made to the rule from time to time. I have a great deal of faith in the way the Badlion staff team works.
Hey, don't get me wrong, this staff team is awesome, but I still am not fully convinced that any and every innocent banned player is always able to appeal within two days.