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Need help finding out why I'm being banned from servers
Last edited on 30 May 2020 - 02:15 AM by Troving
For some reason, during the past week I've been banned from 3 trustworthy servers for cheating. I've been banned from Invadedlands, MunchyMC, MCTeams, and another ban on MCTeams. I'm pretty sure this has to do with Badlion Client, because I used to use normal Minecraft on those servers, but when I switched to Badlion Client I got banned pretty quickly. I made a post in the bugs or broken features forum, but it was locked by a staff member who said they'd resolved the issue in dms. I talked to the staff member, but we didn't even have a full conversation and the issue was definitely not resolved. Now, I'm posting this here, because this could be a better forum for it. If anybody knows how to troubleshoot the issue, please respond to this thread or contact me on Discord at @Troving#0726. And no, for the last time, I'm not cheating, and to the best of my knowledge, nothing out of the ordinary is installed on my computer.TLDR; I've been banned on three reputable servers with individual anti-cheats, and I'm looking for any help to determine why.
Edit: I've been screen shared by an MCTeams mod and they concluded I wasn't cheating :D progress
Posted on 27 May 2020 - 09:29 AM
I would recommend creating a ban appeal on the servers forums sites to explain this as we can't really do anything about the ban, if it isn't a BAC ban, if it was a false BAC ban which are pretty rare is should be undone shortly once it has been reviewed. Also I play on MunchyMC, so I thought I would ask if you were using Minimap mod at all since that mod isn't allowed on the server and that could be a reason.Posted on 27 May 2020 - 10:21 AM
how can i get a refund modLast edited on 27 May 2020 - 10:57 AM by ItsSodapop
In order to not go off topic with this thread please create a new one on the forums about your question, and I will answer you there. Thank you.Edit: I messaged you with information on how to get a refund, so no need to create a new thread, just check your messages on the forums, and it describes what to do, if you have any questions message me, or create a new thread.
Posted on 28 May 2020 - 05:57 AM
ITSSODAPOP wrote
I would recommend creating a ban appeal on the servers forums sites to explain this as we can't really do anything about the ban, if it isn't a BAC ban, if it was a false BAC ban which are pretty rare is should be undone shortly once it has been reviewed. Also I play on MunchyMC, so I thought I would ask if you were using Minimap mod at all since that mod isn't allowed on the server and that could be a reason.
No, the ban wasn't related to minimap, and I don't use the minimap mod. The ban was also not related to BAC, as none of the above servers have BAC enabled. I've submitted a ban appeal to Invaded, which was promptly denied. I wish I could give more information, but the only thing that was responded to in my thread was the single word, "denied." I do appreciate your support though, thank you so much. I'm starting to suspect Badlion as a cause to these bans, because imo it is extremely likely that some beta update with specific settings that I happen to have enabled triggers server logs. When I play on the default Minecraft launcher, I don't get banned on any servers. Every server I've been banned from I've thoroughly reviewed the rules of, and I'm certain I didn't break any of them.
Posted on 29 May 2020 - 05:39 AM
Troving wrote
ITSSODAPOP wrote...
No, the ban wasn't related to minimap, and I don't use the minimap mod. The ban was also not related to BAC, as none of the above servers have BAC enabled. I've submitted a ban appeal to Invaded, which was promptly denied. I wish I could give more information, but the only thing that was responded to in my thread was the single word, "denied." I do appreciate your support though, thank you so much. I'm starting to suspect Badlion as a cause to these bans, because imo it is extremely likely that some beta update with specific settings that I happen to have enabled triggers server logs. When I play on the default Minecraft launcher, I don't get banned on any servers. Every server I've been banned from I've thoroughly reviewed the rules of, and I'm certain I didn't break any of them.
Whoops, forgot to @ you. @ItsSodapop
Posted on 30 May 2020 - 01:48 PM
I would recommend creating a bug report at the bottom of the launcher if you are banned again, so the logs may be checked for any reasons, I would also recommend requesting for more details on the reason of the ban.Posted on 31 May 2020 - 04:04 AM
Badlion Client is aiming to provide complete unmodified vanilla gameplay in the core aspects.I'm sure those servers would post some sort of an announcement (or notify us) if Badlion Client was causing players to get banned.
Posted on 31 May 2020 - 05:11 AM
UnknownFact wrote
Badlion Client is aiming to provide complete unmodified vanilla gameplay in the core aspects.
I'm sure those servers would post some sort of an announcement (or notify us) if Badlion Client was causing players to get banned.
I'm sure those servers would post some sort of an announcement (or notify us) if Badlion Client was causing players to get banned.
I'm sure this is true, but I'd also assume that they wouldn't deny a ban appeal in which I said I was using Badlion Client if they knew there were false bans going around that. Starting to wonder if it's this:
Last edited on 31 May 2020 - 06:21 AM by UnknownFact
Troving wrote
I'm sure this is true, but I'd also assume that they wouldn't deny a ban appeal in which I said I was using Badlion Client if they knew there were false bans going around that. Starting to wonder if it's this: https://youtu.be/bPEIorUz-TA
It definitely couldn't be caused by Optifine's fast math.
Almost everyone is using Optifine, and an unknown number of people are using the fast math option. Imagine how many people would be banned from servers just for using Optifine and its fast math. There haven't been any mass ban waves (and I don't think there will be any) because no server-side anti-cheat is using a reach and speed check that would detect the amount of reach and speed the Optifine's fast math option gives. Also, it's worth mentioning that the reach and speed that Optifine gives is not consistent. There is a super low chance that you will get either of those.
Posted on 31 May 2020 - 03:37 PM
UnknownFact wrote
Troving wrote...
It definitely couldn't be caused by Optifine's fast math.
Almost everyone is using Optifine, and an unknown number of people are using the fast math option. Imagine how many people would be banned from servers just for using Optifine and its fast math. There haven't been any mass ban waves (and I don't think there will be any) because no server-side anti-cheat is using a reach and speed check that would detect the amount of reach and speed the Optifine's fast math option gives. Also, it's worth mentioning that the reach and speed that Optifine gives is not consistent. There is a super low chance that you will get either of those.
Okay fair enough. What could it possibly be?
Last edited on 01 June 2020 - 09:18 AM by UnknownFact
Troving wrote
Okay fair enough. What could it possibly be?
Nothing on Badlion Client should flag a server-side anti-cheat unless it has been modified or injected with cheats on your side.
It hasn't been mentioned here but there is a way to get "false" banned on servers by their anti-cheats. If there is something wrong on your computer (related to CPU), it can flag a movement check which can get you banned.
If I were you, I would make an appeal (again) or send a DM to server staff (the one you are banned on) and ask for a solid ban reason.
Posted on 01 June 2020 - 05:52 PM
UnknownFact wrote
Troving wrote...
Nothing on Badlion Client should flag a server-side anti-cheat unless it has been modified or injected with cheats on your side.
It hasn't been mentioned here but there is a way to get "false" banned on servers by their anti-cheats. If there is something wrong on your computer (related to CPU), it can flag a movement check which can get you banned.
If I were you, I would make an appeal (again) or send a DM to server staff (the one you are banned on) and ask for a solid ban reason.
Okay, I've already pleaded guilty on the appeals, and all but one has been accepted as a first offense, but if I get banned again, which I most likely will, I'll do that. Thanks.