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The dreaded fishing rod and Bow

Ok, I'm going to get straight down to business here : I want to know what people think about removing fishing rods and bows from all pot related ladders. Before any smartass comes and says :"Vanilla is supposed to have all you get in Vanilla in it" I'm just going to point out that in a real Vanilla situation (or any other pot ladders) then you would be able to run away from the opponent and /home or /spawn. I have no problem with somebody using the fishing rod and bow lightly during a match, but running away and killing someone with a bow and fishing rod and not letting them get close to you is really unfair. I've made a strawpoll below with a few different options, if you wish then please vote. I also have a few more solutions that MIGHT work:

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1. : Have a timer on Fishing rods and bows (maybe 10 seconds)
2. : Only allowed one or the other in your kit.
3. : Obligatory to have in you kit (everyone has to have a bow and fishing rod)
4. : (nothing to do with the fishing rod and bow problem) obligatory amount of base potions (speed,fire res,strength,regen,etc.) and enderpearls. (this could also become a problem)
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Vote here : http://strawpoll.me/4131977
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No.3 is retarded
No.4 would be cool
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ArthiuMWrecks wrote

No.3 is retarded
No.4 would be cool


ook, I'm gonna post this in the ideas section as well
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how can you not kill people that have a fishing rod or bow? Lol most of the people that carry that stuff are awful at potpvp. Not hard to dodge arrows/ fishing rods with speed 2
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imo they're both fine but kb and punch need to be removed from vanilla
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Hivlik wrote

imo they're both fine but kb and punch need to be removed from vanilla

No
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Hivlik wrote

imo they're both fine but kb and punch need to be removed from vanilla

Once this happens, it stops being vanilla.
The whole point of vanilla is that it's freeform, and you can use what you want except gapples.
OP: If you don't like the ladder because of the items the players chose, stick with a different ladder. Not letting players get near you is a good tactic in vanilla, as a critical hit is around 5-6 healths if done correctly.
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Isn't there something called an enderpearl?
When I see someone with a bow I just pearl to them and that usually solves the problem.
Also, bows do like 1/2 a heart damage in vanilla anyways.
Knockback is annoying but stops the opponent from getting combos.
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Listen wrote

Hivlik wrote...


Once this happens, it stops being vanilla.
The whole point of vanilla is that it's freeform, and you can use what you want except gapples.
OP: If you don't like the ladder because of the items the players chose, stick with a different ladder. Not letting players get near you is a good tactic in vanilla, as a critical hit is around 5-6 healths if done correctly.


Gapple were removed because they were too broken. What is different about kb/punch?
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Hivlik wrote

Gapple were removed because they were too broken. What is different about kb/punch?

Gapples*

Adding gapples completely changes the way the vanilla ladder works, and it's way too deviated to call it the same ladder. Punch and kb are enchantments that have always been in the ladder, and one of the things you just have to deal with.
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Hivlik wrote

Gapple were removed because they were too broken. What is different about kb/punch?


Gapples basically add a GOD mode factor for 30 seconds, unless you crit w/ strength 2 and their helm breaks.

KB/Punch do not make you god mode, just a little bit more health if used correctly because you can evade your enemy. That argument is very invalid and way too over used.
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What about normal golden apples? The ones you make with ingots, not blocks.
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Those would be spammed, basically making you god, and also would defeat the purpose of having regen pots.
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ChazFletcher wrote

Those would be spammed, basically making you god, and also would defeat the purpose of having regen pots.


lol that does 2 hearts absorb if you crit youd take them out before the 3rd gapple and thaats assuiming you dont crit
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It's all apart of the game.
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