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UHC 3.1 Caves
so after playing some games with the 3.1 world generation ive noticed that i barely find caves and i barely find any diamonds for enchants.
ill be lucky if i leave my cave with enchants after 40 minutes.

i dont wanna make a big rant about it but, the update is pretty dam shit, in my opinion.

Badlion is encouraging people to xray cause they have a hard time even finding a cave.

i know its supposed to make it harder for xrayers to get full diamond quickly but for non-xrayers its just dam near impossible to get anything good out of a cave.

please rethink your decicion on making diamonds so rare.
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That's actually the whole point of the UHC - to play and get as geared as possible from caves. Having 3.1 generation is pefectly fine as UHC has never meant to be a fast paced game where everyone would get enchants / full diamond 20-30 mins into the game. I also don't think they would be changing it because people were complaining about too many diamonds and now everyone's complaining about the lack of diamonds. Just my opinion. ;)
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I feel like people got accustomed to the buggy worlds where there were tons of caves, mineshafts, and diamonds, and now that it's vanilla again people are complaining because it's not as easy. >.>
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I feel like people got accustomed to the buggy worlds where there were tons of caves, mineshafts, and diamonds, and now that it's vanilla again people are complaining because it's not as easy. >.>


This is what i tell people when they ask why are diamond rates low to me and it seems true
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No more mineshafts. Ok no bow for me
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JeroenPVP_ wrote

No more mineshafts. Ok no bow for me

I found mineshaft every game that I played…
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4/5 games i had 1. The other games i had strugel getting a bow.
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I feel like people got accustomed to the buggy worlds where there were tons of caves, mineshafts, and diamonds, and now that it's vanilla again people are complaining because it's not as easy. >.>
bro even in those days i couldnt find diamond LOL
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I mined full diamond with an extra helmet my first game on 3.1 xD

I'm glad that it's harder tbh.
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I'm not complaining, mainly because I'm fine with the lack of diamonds, mineshafts, caves, etc., but there is a problem. I really think (even if they were bugs) bring the old stuff back like it was a month ago. Back to 3.0. I know this is legit vanilla now, but the x-rayers, are still getting full diamond while now the legit players have no chance to mine to full diamond. I have done this before, and I come to 3.1 play 1 game and can't even get enchanted. It may be a bug but it was better because then it was a little more fair. Now the people that get irritated when they don't find diamonds, are more likely to result to x-ray. I'm fine with it like now, mainly because I will never x-ray, but I think some people will due to the inability to find diamonds and caves. I'd rather have it like it is right now, but I think it is better for the community to have it back to 3.0.
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Giraffez wrote

I'm not complaining, mainly because I'm fine with the lack of diamonds, mineshafts, caves, etc., but there is a problem. I really think (even if they were bugs) bring the old stuff back like it was a month ago. Back to 3.0. I know this is legit vanilla now, but the x-rayers, are still getting full diamond while now the legit players have no chance to mine to full diamond. I have done this before, and I come to 3.1 play 1 game and can't even get enchanted. It may be a bug but it was better because then it was a little more fair. Now the people that get irritated when they don't find diamonds, are more likely to result to x-ray. I'm fine with it like now, mainly because I will never x-ray, but I think some people will due to the inability to find diamonds and caves. I'd rather have it like it is right now, but I think it is better for the community to have it back to 3.0.
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Giraffez wrote

I'm not complaining, mainly because I'm fine with the lack of diamonds, mineshafts, caves, etc., but there is a problem. I really think (even if they were bugs) bring the old stuff back like it was a month ago. Back to 3.0. I know this is legit vanilla now, but the x-rayers, are still getting full diamond while now the legit players have no chance to mine to full diamond. I have done this before, and I come to 3.1 play 1 game and can't even get enchanted. It may be a bug but it was better because then it was a little more fair. Now the people that get irritated when they don't find diamonds, are more likely to result to x-ray. I'm fine with it like now, mainly because I will never x-ray, but I think some people will due to the inability to find diamonds and caves. I'd rather have it like it is right now, but I think it is better for the community to have it back to 3.0.
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Oops double post
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Yea tbh I agreee with you. I vote on bringing 3.0 back. If you play reddit or twitt UHC's you will find more diamonds than you will on BadLion. Plus the veins are all fucked up. I'm lucky if I ever get a three vein. It's all fucked up and the world generation is fucking up also. I play a lot of UHC games and noticed that the maps are being re-used and people are going to the same caves and getting flame bows/fire swords and it's really annoying man. I want 3.0 back. Someone please make a petition to bring it back.
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JeroenPVP_ wrote

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Giraffez wrote...

That's not true, it's very difficult even for xrayers to get full diamond now, if they wanna get full diamond they will have to act obvious and it will be a lot easier for the host to catch them.

Personally I found way less people that are full diamond early in the game, both while playing and hosting, and I think that's much better, do you really perfer everyone getting full diamond 30 minutes in each game?

Besides, a lot more xrayers are getting caught now because they are constantly running out of caves and they need to xray to new ones, in 3.0 it was so easy for them to xray because the cave system would never really end and they knew exactly where they need to go to find diamonds.

Want more reasons why we shouldn't go back?

3.1 is pure vanilla generation, unlike 3.0.

A lot of players in 3.0 were complaining that they hate how people are full diamond 30 minutes in all the time, a lot more were complaining about 3.0 than 3.1.
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Radical24 wrote

JeroenPVP_ wrote...

That's not true, it's very difficult even for xrayers to get full diamond now, if they wanna get full diamond they will have to act obvious and it will be a lot easier for the host to catch them.

Personally I found way less people that are full diamond early in the game, both while playing and hosting, and I think that's much better, do you really perfer everyone getting full diamond 30 minutes in each game?

Besides, a lot more xrayers are getting caught now because they are constantly running out of caves and they need to xray to new ones, in 3.0 it was so easy for them to xray because the cave system would never really end and they knew exactly where they need to go to find diamonds.

Want more reasons why we shouldn't go back?

3.1 is pure vanilla generation, unlike 3.0.

A lot of players in 3.0 were complaining that they hate how people are full diamond 30 minutes in all the time, a lot more were complaining about 3.0 than 3.1.



You said it yourself, its difficult for xrayers to get full diamond what about the legit players who just want enchants, you have to cave for a good 35 minutes to get that. Since 3.1 I've only got enchants 4/5 times out of what 30 games?. Its ridiculous now and it makes it even harder for me to snowball. I also believe the ores are not vanilla as in a SMP i used to play (1.7.x) diamonds were not extremely common but neither extremely rare like they are on badlion now. @Archybot said that they might increase it by 10-20% as many are struggling to enchant due to the rates right now
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I feel like people got accustomed to the buggy worlds where there were tons of caves, mineshafts, and diamonds, and now that it's vanilla again people are complaining because it's not as easy. >.>


This is the reality.

The 3.0 generator was bugged and is not in any way shape or form even close to Vanilla generation.

The actual 3.1 generator is a real Minecraft Generator running 1.7.10. Only modifications are replacing Oceans/Jungles with more friendly biomes such as plains/forests/etc.

The diamond rates are pure vanilla and the buggy worlds were about 2-3x vanilla values which was NEVER INTENDED
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I'm actully finding atleast enough for enchants and diamond piece almsot every time I play since 3.1 , and in 3.0 I was full iron most of the time ;p
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