Posted on 23 July 2015 - 12:21 PM

This needs to be fixed. I don't know if this change was intentional in UHC 3.1, either way it's something that definitely needs to be reverted.

I have checked all of the announcements and developer notes for UHC 3.1, and the only mention of ores is that diamond rates have been decreased. Nothing in regards to any other ores was mentioned.

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sorry if I am, but I am almost 99% sure that UHC 3.1 includes some sort of "anti-strip mining" plugin that has completely screwed up caving in UHC. I am aware that this has been added to Mini UHCs, but there is no mention that it should have been added to proper UHCs. I have played a few games since the release of UHC 3.1 and my theory has yet to be falsified. That is, I'm fairly certain that the UHC 3.1 generator replaces any ore that is not in contact with either an air block or another ore is replaced with stone.

This completely screws up caving and UHC as a whole. In vanilla minecraft, one of the most common veins of ores is the 'two ores exposed to the cave, and then diagonal to that, another two ores are present'. There are other vein orientations that this effects. This anti-strip mining plugin is at least halving the size of most of the veins in vanilla minecraft, and veins of gold diamond that are usually between 4-7 are being reduced down to veins of 1 or 2.

Honestly, I'd rather have people xraying/strip mining for ores and then the mods having a chance of catching them than the way the ores are and caving is in UHC 3.1, and I'm sure most people would agree with me on that.

I hope diamond rates weren't lowered below their vanilla rates (I didn't even realise they were increased in Badlion UHCs). There are definitely not enough present at the moment, but I'm unsure whether this is due to this anti-strip mining thing or them being lowered too much.

On a side note, why isn't GCheat enabled in UHCs? I'm sure you have a good reason for it not being used, but I'm curious. It gets sort of tiring dying to people blatantly hacking in UHC and knowing that they can get away with it without being caught. I'm sorry but in UHCs the /report system just doesn't work. By the time I report I am either dead or have just lost everything I have worked for throughout the game, and then most of the time it will get ignored. I have reported so many hackers in UHCs and a mod has never acted upon the report. I record everything, but even then 1st person perspective reports are never accepted. Tell me this isn't concrete evidence:

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 12:42 PM

Yeh iv noticed that 2, usually you only find 2 veins of diamonds and gold now. Even when stair casing you cannot find iron which imo is a bit stupid, @Archybot @MasterGberry I appreciate the lengths at which you are going to, to stop xrayers but this is just completely affecting the gameplay. Ores which are ment to be 4 veins are found in 2 veins due to your update. http://i.gyazo.com/ffe7538d5bf2fe7ebad67840ee9b8512.png
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Posted on 23 July 2015 - 02:16 PM

The Anti-strip mining plugin is only located on UHC 3.1 MiniUHC servers.

Unless for some reason it was accidentally put onto Hosted servers (which I do not think it was).

Also stating that it checks to see if any of the connecting diamonds are exposed, and if they are it will leave all of the diamonds including your diagonal ones.

So…this post is completely wrong :p

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 02:21 PM

Hm, thanks for the response Gberry. Although I may have incorrectly identified the source of the issue, something has definitely changed, can you check for us on a map generated with UHC 3.1?

I am almost certain the diagonal ores are being removed in hosted UHCs.

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 03:41 PM

Yes I Do think this should be looked into like NoReach Said we like that your trying to get rid of xrayers but its just ruining gameplay the past 3 games I wanted to rush and I had to find 3 veines of diamonds before I got enchanted so I do think u should fix this ive seen people at 0,0 1hr 30 Mins in and there full iron nonenchanted that's just messed up makes me think how easy it would be just to turn off vanilla rates for ores



Thanks For Reading

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 03:48 PM

Yeh it is kinda too hard now to find diamonds. And i dont think i have yet to find a vein of diamonds greater than 3 @MasterGberry

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 04:16 PM

Fuck….mfw I spend a bunch of time proving that there isn't a mistake…and there is -.-

I never used my fucking boolean value…god damn't…so the anti-strip mining was always on

mfw x2 I see there is a logic error removing these diagonal ores…god fucking damnt.

Should propagate and fix within a few days.

Posted on 23 July 2015 - 04:34 PM

Ayy at least it'll be fixed soon. We appreciate it, thanks Gberry! :)