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When people say PvP is about "skill"
Have you ever noticed that people say that PvP is 90% about skill?
So have I. Those who say that, haven't played with bad ping.
Now that GCheat has cleaned out most of the cheaters, there remains bad players, good players and pingers.
And the only way to be good is by pinging nowadays.
From my experience, when I was playing with a guy who had 10ms to EU, I was clicking three times faster than him and he still would get those crazy hits on me, and from
further away. And there's a lot more, which I'm not gonna list down here.
This is not a complain, hate post or any sort of that crap. Just telling how things are.
And anyone saying that 100ms is good, is wrong.

Waiting for "get better internet" replies..
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Not true at all. You just need to learn how to fight against people with better ping and get used to your own. Look at thebestginger or bluedeww, for example. I get approximately 50 ping, which isnt the greatest but i can easy beat players with better ping. Oh and also, people with a better ping dont get "further" hits, their hits just register faster.
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Ping really isn't a big deal. People, who have 100+ ping are really good players. You just have to adapt to your own ping and you'll eventually reach your potential.
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Clearness wrote

Not true at all. You just need to learn how to fight against people with better ping and get used to your own. Look at thebestginger or bluedeww, for example. I get approximately 50 ping, which isnt the greatest but i can easy beat players with better ping. Oh and also, people with a better ping dont get "further" hits, their hits just register faster.
And there we have it. The guy who has never played with bad ping.
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Lynkkis wrote

Clearness wrote...

And there we have it. The guy who has never played with bad ping.

If you use a bow or a rod with say 170 ping, compared to 240
You'll see a huge difference with 240 not being able to shoot closer range while 170 ping can mid range and below 110 can short range
Same for rods, minecraft pvp is really based on ping
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I've played with just about every ping, and although not every one is equal, each one absolutely has its advantages and disadvantages. You simply can't tell me that the only reason somebody beat you is because he had better ping.
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Lynkkis wrote

Clearness wrote...

And there we have it. The guy who has never played with bad ping.


If ping really is such a factor, explain this:
I play my European friend on na servers - I have 55-60 average ms, he has 100-120 ms. I 4/5 fights with 2-3 pots each time - I quickdropped on the one I lost.
We play on European servers - i get 100-120, he gets somewhere around 30. I win 5/5 fights with 1-4 pots each time.

When I play on kohi, I often get people messaging me saying that I'm only good because of my ms (keep in mind I have 60 ms lul). I offer to fight them on EU, and 99% of the time beat them just as badly there as on na servers.

And before you hit me with your bs - I visited the west coast for a summer, which has worse connection to na than eu does. I made it to top 10 kohi there for a couple weeks before I stopped playing.
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/tiniest_violin.gif

You're just salty, dude. Ping hardly matters. I can play fine on 200 Ms and 30 Ms. Also clicking slightly faster isn't gonna win you fights(unless it's combo).
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Lynkkis wrote

Clearness wrote...

And there we have it. The guy who has never played with bad ping.
I actually used to have 125ms when I lived in Cali lol, gf
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Lynkkis wrote

Clearness wrote...

And there we have it. The guy who has never played with bad ping.

You're an idiot
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Used to play on US servers with 100+ ping and slow internet (10 down 1 up)
Now I play on EU servers with <10 ping and godly internet (650 down 650 up)

Guess what. It barely matters. It's about restarting your sprint, strafing, and indeed click speed.
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freekkiller wrote

Used to play on US servers with 100+ ping and slow internet (10 down 1 up)
Now I play on EU servers with <10 ping and godly internet (650 down 650 up)

Guess what. It barely matters. It's about restarting your sprint, strafing, and indeed click speed.

I dont melee like everyone does here lol, I bow spam thats my life and I only melee when I have no arrows or low healing
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Hivlik wrote

I've played with just about every ping, and although not every one is equal, each one absolutely has its advantages and disadvantages. You simply can't tell me that the only reason somebody beat you is because he had better ping.


I completely agree. I've played with 20 ping, 50 ping, 100 ping, 150 even. They all are different and all have great advantages as well as disadvantages. If you have really bad internet, it can definitely be harder to PvP, but it's not impossible to have great elo with bad internet/ ping
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Lynkkis wrote

Have you ever noticed that people say that PvP is 90% about skill?
So have I. Those who say that, haven't played with bad ping.
Now that GCheat has cleaned out most of the cheaters, there remains bad players, good players and pingers.
And the only way to be good is by pinging nowadays.
From my experience, when I was playing with a guy who had 10ms to EU, I was clicking three times faster than him and he still would get those crazy hits on me, and from
further away. And there's a lot more, which I'm not gonna list down here.
This is not a complain, hate post or any sort of that crap. Just telling how things are.
And anyone saying that 100ms is good, is wrong.

Waiting for "get better internet" replies..
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This is a simple cause of Mad cause bad
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It's all about how good your gaming chair is. If my ass isn't pleased I can't pvp well.
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When people say PVP is all about "ping"
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BurntCactus wrote

It's all about how good your gaming chair is. If my ass isn't pleased I can't pvp well.
This ^^^
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freekkiller wrote

Now I play on EU servers with <10 ping and godly internet (650 down 650 up)

What the fuck. how much do you pay for that shit
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