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Badware wrote

BurntCactus wrote...



If you sue over a 15$ rank in Minecraft, you need to reevaluate your life. And that being said, I'm 100% sure that regardless of your rank you can be banned for any reason at any time. Life's unfair isn't it?
you need to reevaluate your entire mentality towards the situation. It's not about whether or not it's a minecraft server, a 15 dollar rank, or whether they're cheating or not cheating. It's about invasion of privacy and not being given the right to say no. I will literally argue over this topic for eternity with you as I have a strong belief against it.
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BurntCactus wrote

You need to reevaluate your entire mentality towards the situation. It's not about whether or not it's a minecraft server, a 15 dollar rank, or whether they're cheating or not cheating. It's about invasion of privacy and not being given the right to say no. I will literally argue over this topic for eternity with you as I have a strong belief against it.


You need to reevaluate your entire mentality towards the situation.

Not in my opinion.

It's about invasion of privacy and not being given the right to say no.

Here's the bottom line. Nobody is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to play Kohi. You forfeit the right to say no when you log into their server. It's 100% legal (regardless of what you think), very effective, and supported by the majority of the community. [EDIT] What I'm trying to say here is that if you don't want to be screenshared, don't play on Kohi.

I will literally argue over this topic for eternity with you as I have a strong belief against it.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
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BurntCactus wrote

Fortunity_ wrote...

you are entering into someone's personal information regardless of how you view it. I'm not even certain what server you work for, but I'll be the dick head who calls out incompetence in the staff. And I'd honestly suggest re-reading the ToS your server has written and make sure to add that you can be terminated from the server if you refuse invasion of your personal privacy. That is if its not written there already, or one day someone could potentially sue.

I'm for kohi, and I already talked to the admin team about this, because I agree with you in a big part of it.
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Badware wrote

BurntCactus wrote...



You need to reevaluate your entire mentality towards the situation.

Not in my opinion.

It's about invasion of privacy and not being given the right to say no.

Here's the bottom line. Nobody is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to play Kohi. You forfeit the right to say no when you log into their server. It's 100% legal (regardless of what you think), very effective, and supported by the majority of the community. [EDIT] What I'm trying to say here is that if you don't want to be screenshared, don't play on Kohi.

I will literally argue over this topic for eternity with you as I have a strong belief against it.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
from your approach the way you speak on Kohi's behalve. I would say Kohi is a dumb shitty ass server. From Fortunity approach. I'd say he looks at things in a more educated way, and while he doesn't agree with my opinion he's willing to read it with an open mind
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BurntCactus wrote

Badware wrote...

from your approach the way you speak on Kohi's behalve. I would say Kohi is a dumb shitty ass server. From Fortunity approach. I'd say he looks at things in a more educated way, and while he doesn't agree with my opinion he's willing to read it with an open mind

behalf*!!!! gang gang shmoke
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DaGoldBrick wrote

BurntCactus wrote...


behalf*!!!! gang gang shmoke
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BurntCactus wrote

Badware wrote...

from your approach the way you speak on Kohi's behalve. I would say Kohi is a dumb shitty ass server. From Fortunity approach. I'd say he looks at things in a more educated way, and while he doesn't agree with my opinion he's willing to read it with an open mind

Just because Badware hasn't changed his mind doesn't mean he doesn't have an open one. Maybe it means it has stronger logic. Don't get me wrong, I side with you in this argument, but the fact that Fortunity agrees with you doesn't in any way invalidate Badware's argument.
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Hivlik wrote

BurntCactus wrote...


Just because Badware hasn't changed his mind doesn't mean he doesn't have an open one. Maybe it means it has stronger logic. Don't get me wrong, I side with you in this argument, but the fact that Fortunity agrees with you doesn't in any way invalidate Badware's argument.


Honestly I have to agree with Badware here just because his points are valid and make sense in my opinion. Also, we have to mention the fact that these players are not being screenshared for no reason. They are being screenshared because the admins think that the player is hacking on their server which should give them the right to check using screenshare. If not, you are banned. Simple as that. Just like if the police have a suspicion of murder, they have the right to search a person's house. Kinda like those streamers that got swatted lol. If the person doesn't comply I'd imagine they would get arrested (not exactly sure, just trying to prove a point.). I agree in some ways with Burnt, but at the same time I have to agree with Badware as well.
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In the 5v5 tourney for real money, and a large amount too, it would be the same as robbing a bank and taking money and not allowing police to investigate to see if you have the money etc if you hacked in it. That's my view of it
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SirJensen wrote

Hivlik wrote...



Honestly I have to agree with Badware here just because his points are valid and make sense in my opinion. Also, we have to mention the fact that these players are not being screenshared for no reason. They are being screenshared because the admins think that the player is hacking on their server which should give them the right to check using screenshare. If not, you are banned. Simple as that. Just like if the police have a suspicion of murder, they have the right to search a person's house. Kinda like those streamers that got swatted lol. If the person doesn't comply I'd imagine they would get arrested (not exactly sure, just trying to prove a point.). I agree in some ways with Burnt, but at the same time I have to agree with Badware as well.

But the police need a warrant to search somebody's private property, because otherwise that would be a blatant invasion of personal privacy which every person has a basic right to.
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Hivlik wrote

SirJensen wrote...


But the police need a warrant to search somebody's private property, because otherwise that would be a blatant invasion of personal privacy which every person has a basic right to.
*yawn can someone please summarize all of this above into 3 scentences?
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xKniqht wrote

Hivlik wrote...

*yawn can someone please summarize all of this above into 3 scentences?
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xKniqht wrote

Hivlik wrote...

*yawn can someone please summarize all of this above into 3 scentences?

tl;dr: "Screen sharing shouldn't be a thing." "Screen sharing should be a thing!" The end.
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FunkyFactions wrote

tl;dr: "Screen sharing shouldn't be a thing." "Screen sharing should be a thing." The end.

fixed
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Badware wrote

FunkyFactions wrote...


fixed

That period 3edgy5me
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BurntCactus wrote

Badware wrote...

That privilege quickly turns into a legal issue when ranks are involved.


Wrong:

"We retain the right to ban/remove any player from our network for any reason at any time for any reasons we deem fit."

https://www.badlion.net/wiki/rules
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BurntCactus wrote

Badware wrote...

That privilege quickly turns into a legal issue when ranks are involved.


If you had a rank on a server, and hacked, you shouldn't have cheated.
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FunkyFactions wrote

Cheat engine? lmao I used to use that shit so long ago for other games


Back in the Beta days when you'd used to use CE to get infinite items LOL
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toast747 wrote

BurntCactus wrote...



If you had a rank on a server, and hacked, you shouldn't have cheated.
cheating is not what I'm implying…
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Yeh I never understood the screen sharing thing. Even more so now as people use ghost clients, what is it going to accomplish?

I don't use skype and I'm not downloading a program so I can waste my time screen sharing someone. I doubt the mods keep & share notes between them, you could get 5 different mods ask to screenshare in 1 day for all I know.

IMO if they refuse to let you play on the server because you refused to screen share. Then that is a shitly run server
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