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Debunking jitterclicking giving you carpal tunnel
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 10:14 PM
(All credits to Tenebrous)Anyways the thing is everyone's saying that jitterclicking can give you carpal tunnel syndrome but why it can't is because its caused by an external force such as the vibration of a jackhammer or the movement of your wrist but with the jitterclicking the arms vibrate not your wrists or carpal muscles so please just stfu and learn jitterclicking is ok. Even better than normal clicking for you because when you normal click you move your whole wrist.
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 10:16 PM
wow! i watched the same video you did! what a coincidinc!Posted on 16 January 2016 - 10:48 PM
Syenl wrote
why it can't is because its caused by an external force such as the vibration of a jackhammer or the movement of your wrist but with the jitterclicking the arms vibrate not your wrists
Wrong. Please explain to me how it is possible to jitterclick while keeping your wrist locked? Your wrist still moves whether or not you're jitterclicking with your wrist or with your entire arm. When people do vibrato on the violin, they either do vibrato by moving their wrist or by moving their arm. This does not mean that by doing arm vibrato that they are not moving their wrist back and forth as well, it is actually a combination of both a wrist and arm movement.
Saying that you can't harm your nerves while jitterclicking is an outrageous assumption. Not only are most of the people on these forums using potato logic to back up their arguments and what people have led them to believe, but most of them have not even been playing computer games long enough to realize the effects that repetitive wrist movements have. There are many dedicated computer gamers that have encountered hand and wrist problems, including carpal tunnel syndrome, due to the competitive mouse movements that they have performed over numerous hours.
The aspect that people here are not understanding is not that jitterclicking causes carpal tunnel syndrome, but that performing enough repetitive movements will eventually cause the development of problems in your hands and wrists.
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 10:54 PM
Reading these threads as a person who butterfly clicks:http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/Griggsbird/mj-thriller-popcorn-o.gif
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 10:56 PM
SmellyPenguin wrote
Syenl wrote...
Wrong. Please explain to me how it is possible to jitterclick while keeping your wrist locked? Your wrist still moves whether or not you're jitterclicking with your wrist or with your entire arm. When people do vibrato on the violin, they either do vibrato by moving their wrist or by moving their arm. This does not mean that by doing arm vibrato that they are not moving their wrist back and forth as well, it is actually a combination of both a wrist and arm movement.
Saying that you can't harm your nerves while jitterclicking is an outrageous assumption. Not only are most of the people on these forums using potato logic to back up their arguments and what people have led them to believe, but most of them have not even been playing computer games long enough to realize the effects that repetitive wrist movements have. There are many dedicated computer gamers that have encountered hand and wrist problems, including carpal tunnel syndrome, due to the competitive mouse movements that they have performed over numerous hours.
The aspect that people here are not understanding is not that jitterclicking causes carpal tunnel syndrome, but that performing enough repetitive movements will eventually cause the development of problems in your hands and wrists.
Wrong. Please explain to me how it is possible to jitterclick while keeping your wrist locked?
You're misrepresenting the argument. Jitter clicking's source is not the wrist.
When people do vibrato on the violin, they either do vibrato by moving their wrist or by moving their arm. This does not mean that by doing arm vibrato that they are not moving their wrist back and forth as well, it is actually a combination of both a wrist and arm movement.
Except when you jitter click your wrist isn't actually moving by itself, it's just moving in relation to your arm. The wrist should not be affected.
Saying that you can't harm your nerves while jitterclicking is an outrageous assumption
No you assuming it does is an outrageous assumption. There is no experimental correlation for any of this.
have not even been playing computer games long enough to realize the effects that repetitive wrist movements have
1. Jitter clicking isn't coming from your wrist, yes your wrist is moving but it's moving with your whole arm and nothing is being strained.
2. This must mean that musicians must have way worse problems because they do stuff like this way more often
3. Typing creates way more wrist movement and it's not a cause of carpal tunnel
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/20030610/typing-rarely-cause-of-carpal-tunnel
There are many dedicated computer gamers that have encountered hand and wrist problems, including carpal tunnel syndrome, due to the competitive mouse movements that they have performed over numerous hours.
And 0 experimental evidence to support any of it, or rule out outside causes.
The aspect that people here are not understanding is not that jitterclicking causes carpal tunnel syndrome, but that performing enough repetitive movements will eventually cause the development of problems in your hands and wrists.
Possibly, but carpal tunnel will NOT come from jitter clicking. Jitter clicking may induce arm problems though.
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:02 PM
ItsTene wrote
3. Typing creates way more wrist movement and it's not a cause of carpal tunnel
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/20030610/typing-rarely-cause-of-carpal-tunnel
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/20030610/typing-rarely-cause-of-carpal-tunnel
Oh oh jump in here, this is actually true. I had a great intro to technology teacher in 7th grade that had carpal tunnel and she said she got it because she didn't use a wrist rest when typing and like her veins got shaped like ovals or something idk but my 7th grader teacher can vouch leave a like
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:08 PM
Badware wrote
ItsTene wrote...
Oh oh jump in here, this is actually true. I had a great intro to technology teacher in 7th grade that had carpal tunnel and she said she got it because she didn't use a wrist rest when typing and like her veins got shaped like ovals or something idk but my 7th grader teacher can vouch leave a like
I'm not saying it's 100%, it's just a rare cause.
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:10 PM
ItsTene wrote
I'm not saying it's 100%, it's just a rare cause.
Ik it was failed attempt at something. I never actually passed the 7th grade so I don't really know what I'm talking about. I need to go to sleep sir.
Last edited on 16 January 2016 - 11:17 PM by Archybot
All these people trying to teach other people truth and myths about carpal tunnel while I'm sitting here daily dealing with the pain of it. Cute!Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:19 PM
Archybot wrote
All these people trying to teach other people truth and myths about carpal tunnel while I'm sitting here daily dealing with the pain of it. Cute!
;-;
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:21 PM
Archybot wrote
All these people trying to teach other people truth and myths about carpal tunnel while I'm sitting here daily dealing with the pain of it. Cute!
Care to specify what is truth and what is myth?
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:27 PM
You're using the fact that no experiments have been done on jitterclicking as merit for your argument. I don't know if you realize but nobody is going to do an experiment on jitterclicking, ever. I don't even know if there are any carpal tunnel syndrome experiments done. You know how hard it would be to measure all the movements that result in carpal tunnel problems? An experiment would be useless in my opinion.ItsTene wrote
Except when you jitter click your wrist isn't actually moving by itself, it's just moving in relation to your arm. The wrist should not be affected.
You proved yourself wrong here lol…not even going to argue.
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:34 PM
I wasn't even trying to seem so much like I thought jitterclicking is bad in that post xD….It was for a friend who was telling me stuff about butterfly clicking being 10x worse then jitterclicking lol….
Last edited on 16 January 2016 - 11:40 PM by Archybot
Butterfly clicking is worse then jitterclicking when it comes to carpal tunnel. Carpal tunnel is from repetition. Mine is from moving my mouse left and right over and over while having my wrist in a poor and unsupported position. Pain from carpal tunnel can be anywhere from the center of your hand to your elbow, mine is typically in my lower forearm, right underneath my wrist.Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:42 PM
Archybot wrote
Butterfly clicking is worse then jitterclicking when it comes to carpal tunnel. Carpal tunnel is from repetition. Mine is from moving my mouse left and right over and over while having my wrist in a poor and unsupported position. Pain from carpal tunnel can be anywhere from the center of your hand to your elbow, mine is typically in my lower forearm, right underneath my wrist.
Exactly the point I was trying to get at. Thanks archy!
Posted on 16 January 2016 - 11:48 PM
Archybot wrote
Butterfly clicking is worse then jitterclicking when it comes to carpal tunnel. Carpal tunnel is from repetition. Mine is from moving my mouse left and right over and over while having my wrist in a poor and unsupported position. Pain from carpal tunnel can be anywhere from the center of your hand to your elbow, mine is typically in my lower forearm, right underneath my wrist.
Well looks like I'm going to get carpal tunnel in a couple days l0l
Posted on 17 January 2016 - 01:37 AM
What I am trying to say is that jitterclicking cannot cause carpal tunnel especially in the wrist unless very special cases. So I have been jitter clicking for a year and my wrist is strong and healthy. Both wrists are. Butterfly clicking can be worse because the lifted repetition of the fingers which comes from the tendons and muscles in your wrists. It can damage your wrist, long term able to put you in the hospital. Jitter clicking though, has the movement coming from your arm and elbow, it can't give you carpal tunnel but can injure you within a long, keep in mind LONG time and it won't be your wrist or carpal tunnel syndrome. Your elbow or forearm could be hurt slightly or harshly depending on the damage and time done on it.Posted on 17 January 2016 - 02:00 AM
SmellyPenguin wrote
Syenl wrote...
Wrong. Please explain to me how it is possible to jitterclick while keeping your wrist locked? Your wrist still moves whether or not you're jitterclicking with your wrist or with your entire arm. When people do vibrato on the violin, they either do vibrato by moving their wrist or by moving their arm. This does not mean that by doing arm vibrato that they are not moving their wrist back and forth as well, it is actually a combination of both a wrist and arm movement.
Saying that you can't harm your nerves while jitterclicking is an outrageous assumption. Not only are most of the people on these forums using potato logic to back up their arguments and what people have led them to believe, but most of them have not even been playing computer games long enough to realize the effects that repetitive wrist movements have. There are many dedicated computer gamers that have encountered hand and wrist problems, including carpal tunnel syndrome, due to the competitive mouse movements that they have performed over numerous hours.
The aspect that people here are not understanding is not that jitterclicking causes carpal tunnel syndrome, but that performing enough repetitive movements will eventually cause the development of problems in your hands and wrists.
The fact you are comparing clicking a mouse to being a violin aficionado is sickening. And the fact is where's the proof it does? Where's the video of the kids getting diagnosed with carpal tunnel? Where's the proof it came FROM jitterclicking? Where's the medical documentation to fucking show these poor little African children are hurting due to clicking a mouse rapidly due to vibrations through your arm and as I said (Not wrist) Id know, I've been jitter clicking for a year and have no trouble or pain. I type 50 words a minute on a computer and that would affect me more. That would get me carpal tunnel syndrome, so go fucking bitch about that.
Posted on 17 January 2016 - 02:05 AM
Syenl wrote
SmellyPenguin wrote...
The fact you are comparing clicking a mouse to being a violin aficionado is sickening. And the fact is where's the proof it does? Where's the video of the kids getting diagnosed with carpal tunnel? Where's the proof it came FROM jitterclicking? Where's the medical documentation to fucking show these poor little African children are hurting due to clicking a mouse rapidly due to vibrations through your arm and as I said (Not wrist) Id know, I've been jitter clicking for a year and have no trouble or pain. I type 50 words a minute on a computer and that would affect me more. That would get me carpal tunnel syndrome, so go fucking bitch about that.
You don't understand what carpal tunnel syndrome is and what causes the problem.
Last edited on 17 January 2016 - 02:12 AM by Roped_Arrow
oh my god smelly penguin. You just. You don't know shit about carpal tunnel either and the thing is vibrating your arm doesn't include your wrist. I use my elbow and arm to vibrate the mouse.