Posted on 24 January 2016 - 10:50 PM

I'm bored so I'm gonna ask people a question:

What are your top 15 kits in ArenaPvP? Why? (If possible)

(Combo counts as a kit because of how much it is loved)

Mine:
1. Diamond (Because it's ping and jitterclicking)
2. Vanilla (Sharp V + Insane debuffs)
3. BuildUHC (Because it's Build)
4. GApple (Because it's ping and jitterclicking)
5. NoDebuff (I hate debuffs)
6. SG (Less healing more intensity)
7. Archer (I definitely don't bow boost)
8. Skywars (Very simple and non-sweaty)
9. Combo (I suck at it but it's cool)
10. Horse (I have fun with it don't judge)
11. Ironsoup (Helps me with hotkeying)
12. AdvancedUHC (Simple chill bow kit)
13. UHC (Simple chill bow kit)
14. Iron (Simple chill bow kit)
15. Kohi (I hate debuffs)

This was a hard list to make holy shit, I love all kits though

Posted on 24 January 2016 - 11:36 PM

1. Archer - All time favorite, played 10k+ matches over 10 seasons. No natural regen, no sword, and the kit is pretty good this season IMO.

2. Build - Awesome ladder, uniquely complex for a badlion gamemode and really has a steep learning curve. I may not be great at it yet, but I appreciate how many different skill sets go into it. The combination of no natural regen, a decently strong bow, and gameplay that better reflects the sandboxy feel of Minecraft make this ladder one of my favorites. My only real complaint is only having a stack of arrows, Anyone with that kind of gear in a UHC would have multiple stacks.

3. UHC - I feel like UHC balances bow and sword pretty well. I think the combination of no natural regen plus infinte arrows means I rarely get annoying matches. Not as interesting to play as build, but definitely a solid ladder.

4. Advanced UHC - The bow is the primary weapon for sure in this ladder which I like, but the non-infinite arrows aren't the greatest. The lack of absorption removes some of the strategy for me, and I dislike how you can damage people with a bow faster than they can gapple, it's sorta cheap and leads to some stupid playstyles where people just fire off arrows as fast as possible to beat your regen.

5. SG - I suck at this, but it's a solid ladder: when I start playing it I really can't stop. It's fun and you get some really interesting fights. The limited arrows aren't my favorite thing, but it does allow for a nice combination of skill sets to be integrated into the ladder. Rod, Melee, Bow, Fire, Regen…sorta like a mini-Build ladder. I dislike natural regen in general though, and that makes some fights rather annoying.

6. SkyWars - Kinda fun and has requires unique skills that aren't really important in other ladders. Fastbridging and really crazy knockback along with strategic thinking come into play more than in most ladders.

7. Iron - How far you've fallen…I used to love iron almost as much as archer, but it's just not as great as it used to be. The 32 arrows used to be more than enough, but now a lot of different strafes and strategies have developed and spread which basically waste your arrows. Even if you win an encounter, your opponent will run until their full and suddenly they have more arrows. Maybe I've been spoiled by the UHC ladders, but regen and small amounts of arrows really make this ladder less fun than it used to be. Still decently fun when you get an opponent who isn't an asshole though.

8. GApple - Generally a fun ladder, pure speed 2 melee which I'm pretty decent at. No debuffing, no potting, just armor and gaps. There's also some small, albiet interesting strategy involved, you always have to be keeping track of armor and thinking about which pieces you can go without, how to best conserve and spread out your armor bars over the longest period of time. All melee though so it goes below all the bow stuff.

9. Iron Soup - Eh, it's speed melee so it's not terrible. Hotkeying gives you a huge advantage though, and I can't do that so it's not my favorite ladder.

10. Diamond - This ladder is stupid, it's just jump and blockhit, except for those times when you fire a little nubshot beforehand to get a doublehit on them. I'm good at it though because 35ms, so eh.

11. NoDebuff - Pot ladders suck, but at least there's no debuffs in this one.

12. Kohi - Pot ladders suck, but at least it's not vanilla.

13. Vanilla - LOL fuck this ladder. Seriously, your sword deals like 4 hearts, the whole match is just a cloud of health pots and debuffs that are way too OP. I get the idea, it's called vanilla for a reason, but it plays like shit.

14. Combo - Yeah it was a cool proof of concept but I don't need to play this again anytime soon. If I want to test my cps, I'll go to cookieclicker tyvm.

15. Horse - This ladder was a mistake, no one could possibly have ever thought it was a good idea to create a RANKED ladder based around the most laggy and dysfunctional mob in the game. We might as well play fucking minecart pvp where you ride back and forth on minecarts swinging at each other.

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 08:56 AM

1. Advanced UHC - It requires more strategy than most ladders (behind vanilla and build). It's mostly bow which I like, and since it does so much damage dodging is more important than in most ladders.

2. GApple - I enjoy it as it also takes a good amount of strategy, such as knowing when to block hit, when to strafe or straightline, when to put on armor or when to gapple. It's fun in general for me.

3. Kohi - I enjoy the fast paced fights that come from fighting players that are actually good. Debuffs also make it so potting is crucial, if you miss one pot with debuffs on you, you're basically dead. Debuffs also make it easier to quickdrop players as sometimes the longer fights are annoying.

4. BuildUHC - It's just fun in general, nm to say.

5. Skywars - idk it's just fun, satisfying hitting people off the edge.
Too lazy to list reasons for all of them so I'll just make a list now
6. Soup

7. Vanilla

8. Archer

9. Iron

10. Combo

11. UHC

12. Horse

13. SG

14. Diamond

15. No Debuff

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 09:12 AM

UHC - That's the first kit I started with on Badlion back in season 7 or 8 (Don't remember). I love UHCs and I've always loved its simplicity.
Archer - Pretty simple bow-based ladder. I love the bow, and this kit is quite interesting.
BuildUHC - It is a fun kit.
Iron - Simple kit, just like UHC. I just don't play that too much.
Combo - I like this, it's relaxing xD
AdvUHC - A nice kit, just like UHC.
Gapple - Pretty fun and relaxing.
Diamond - Pretty fun, not the best for me though (bad internet).
Soup - Interesting ladder.
Skywars - Pretty fun kit.
No Debuff - I like this, I'm not the best at potting though.
Kohi - Same as No Debuff + I hate the Debuffs.
Horse - Might be fun with friends, not planning to play it Ranked as internet isn't great and it is kinda laggy for me.
Vanilla - Same as Kohi + Never actually played enough matches to tell if it is fun or not.
SG - I don't rod, and I don't think it is fun in any way.

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 09:40 AM

1. UHC- I've been getting way better at this and way worse at archer
2. Gapple- If you're like me and love sword but hate rods and pots, this ladder is nigh-perfect
3. Archer- Still an amazing ladder, but I'm losing interest
4. Iron- Pretty much the same as uhc, but i like it
5. Adv UHC- You die a bit too quickly for my liking, but I can still destroy people in it
6. Diamond- I'm somehow actually pretty good at this ladder, but most fights just come down to crit-blockhitting
7. Combo- I don't click fast, so some of the fun is gone, but when I do get a combo it makes it worth it all the more
8. No-debuff- I'm pretty good, I get matched up with an 1800 half the time though
9. Kohi- I'm not that good with debuffs, so this gets placed slightly lower
10. Iron Soup- Um, it's okay… I guess
11. Horse- Again, somehow I'm good at it, but horses are just too broken for this to work
12. Vanilla- You die way way way too quickly for this ladder to be fun for me
13. Build UHC- Here's where I make enemies with half the community, but I seriously can't melee on this ladder. Rods do nothing, and even though I know it's meant to emulate a real simulation. Fighting isn't fun if you're stuck in lava half the time.
14. SG- Again, I really hate whatever rods are doing on this server
15. Skywars- Do I really need to explain this. Half the time you're going up against some OCN player who gets to the island in under a second, the other time, you just straight up fall off while you're trying to fastbridge, at that point I actually like the melee, but Fuck Skywars.

Last edited on 25 January 2016 - 09:55 AM by KenoticDreams

1. Gapple , its really easy
2. BuildUhc , yea build…
3. Nodebuff , I can conserve my pots really well
4. Kohi , Debuffs + Kangaroo easy peeveepee
5. Iron Soup , :/
6. Vanilla , pretty shit at it but i like debuffs
7. Diamond , best melee ladder without a rod
8. Combo , prob the most awful speed 2 kit for me
9. Skywars , its fun using snowballs and i could kinda bridge
10. Iron , I am really bad with a bow
11. Archer , ^ and it takes too much shots to kill anyone
12. AdvancedUhc , well I dont hate it but you drop so fucking fast
13. Uhc , beaner ladder if they melee rush
14. Horse , go try play horse with 300ms I fucking dare you
15. SG , you know what "SG" mean? "Flip-a-coin PvP"

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 11:26 AM

1. Adv UHC - can be fast and simple if your player isnt shit and dosnt camp , and it relies on bow alot
2. UHC - adv but longer which is annoying
3. SG - Requires more thinking and strats more than skill
4. Diamond - i dunno , just like it
5. Archer - Bow , shoot . simple fun and intense
6. Horse - kind of a weird ladder but i like it
7. Build UHC - so many different playstyles
8. Combo - mainly cause i suck at it
9. Skywars - eh.
10. Iron - PEOPLE JUST RUN AND HAVE POSSIBLY THE WORST TACTICS EVER
rest are the pot ladders

Last edited on 25 January 2016 - 02:23 PM by Jahmyr

1. build, anything could decide a match
2. uhc/advanced uhc (I've been improving at shortrange bowing lol)
3. skywars, basically a mini-build uhc though i cant ocn bridge
4. iron/diamond although both are way too bow based for my favorite ladder
5. horse, my laggy horses juke out kids i fight
6. SG, if the maps didnt lag
7. archer
8. pot ladders, they take way too long and my arm hurts from jitterclicking so i cant play multiple ones in a row. Also, pot delay .__.
9. combo, forgetting to gap = gg

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 12:58 PM

1. Build UHC- Simulates end game of a UHC match, there is a reason why it is the most popular kit
2. SG- Simple, fast, quick, and requires skill. Brings you back to basics and isn't an op kit
3. NoDebuff- Classic pot pvp without debuffs
4. Iron/Diamond- Depends on match but its pretty balanced imo between bow and melee
5. Archer- Who doesn't love this kit. New season 11 enderpearls make it more interesting, along with the new mechanics of damage dealing
6. Gapple- Another classic, just based on who can land more combos
7. Skywars- Not too much pvp but its still fun to do with friends
8. Combo- Meh, it's ok but not too competitive with it
9. Iron Soup- Would be higher on my list but nobody plays soup anymore (sorry lab)
10. Kohi- Specifically because I suck at it
11. Vanilla- I suck at this one too
12. Adv UHC- Not a hater, but nobody plays this and its too op with the bow
13. UHC- Same with adv uhc
14. Horse- If you have bad ping you can just not even bother to click this kit

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 01:11 PM

1. Build UHC: The fights are intense because there isn't much healing and there are many different weapons to use.

2. SG: Very short and intense.

3. UHC: Best bow ladder on the server, this season's maps aren't that great for it imo but last season it was awesome.

4. Archer: Basic and fun to play, the enderpearls add strategy as well.

5. GApple: No pots or debuffs and very simple.

6. Diamond: I'm a pinger

7. Iron: I'm a pinger

8. Sky Wars: Requires strategy and takes more than pvp skill to win.

9. Horse: Can be a little lagging but it's ok.

10. Advanced UHC: The bow is too OP and makes gapples useless.

11. Combo: I suck at it.

12. Kohi: Hate debuffs

13. Vanilla: Everything is too OP and I hate pot pvp

14. Iron Soup: Bland and boring

15. I think I forgot something :/

Posted on 25 January 2016 - 01:57 PM

Juan. Juan doesnt have favorites
Dos. Build UHC the letter B is the second letter of the alphabet
Twee. 123 pvp is easy as uhc
For. FOR SPARTA
Five. idk (insert random kit)
Six. is how many arrows I use in SG
Seven. is about how many shots it takes to kill someone in archer
8. is……ummm……uhh…..figure..8? to skate on…..sky wars…?
Nueaavea. suaveaa combo
Deis: DIAMONDS4DAYZ

Last edited on 26 January 2016 - 12:44 AM by Morsinius

Legacy - Fun fights with old potion mechanics. It doesn't really get much better than that.
Vanilla - Fast paced, requires quick thinking and good decisions. It's a sword ladder, but you can be good at it without being good at melee depending on how you play it out.
Origin - Similar to legacy, but no one ever queued up so I don't remember it too well. I really liked it though ok
Archer (s1) - One shot death basically, unless you were really weak with the shot or way too close. These were extremely fun, but there's no way people would tolerate something like this in neo-Badlion.
MineZ - Loved the power 2 bow and the potions; this was one of those perfect record ladders simply because no one really knew how to manage their health potions.
Skywars - It's incredibly fun even though I'm no good at it. Something's really satisfying about knocking people off the island, I guess
Archer (s8) - Probably the most skill-based archer ladder up to now. It was a grind and a chore to play, but matches were quick if you were good enough and it wasn't too hard to climb.
Diamond - Plain and simple sword ladder with a bow to get combos. It's pretty enjoyable of you know what you're doing.
Archer (s3) - Three-shot archer is probably the archer I remember best. This would be a lot higher on this list, but I just remembered how frustrating it was to draw out matches against close-range campers.
Badlion Factions - This was actually a very tactics driven ladder and horribly underrated. Once again, a perfect record ladder because no one really understood how to play it.
HCF (s5) - I was really fond of that strength pot! This was probably the most tolerable of the drawn out sword ladders because I did a bit more damage per hit.
Alternative - This is here because I'm a patient man
Buff Soup - Shouldn't really be here, but it was actually kind of fun if you knew how to manage your soups well. The strength 2 also ended fights quickly if your opponent wasn't particularly good.
Mineage - Well, it's better than gapple
Iron Soup - All my fights end up really close in this ladder and I'm not sure if that's good or bad

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 02:30 AM

I'm just gonna go with current ladders:

1. Vanilla (I've played this ladder since season 1 and i just love the fast paced pvp that is required for this)
2. Kohi (i love debuffs)
3. UHC (simple and favorite bow ladder)
4. Diamond (underratedly skillful ladder)
5. Archer (simple and can't go wrong with only bowing)
6. NoDebuff (potpvp is great but im better with debuffs)
7. Iron (used to be my favorite ladder at one point somewhere in season 6-7 time)
8. AdvancedUHC (not good at agro bowing)
9. Soup (i used to be great at soups but lack of playing it and now i suck plus i dislike the ladder in general w/o sharpness/and IMO it should be speed II or no speed not speed I)
10. Gapple (i never liked gapple, although it is easy elo, just takes too long)
11. BuildUHC (i suck with rods and blocks and lava and water and hotkeying properly in general, my reflexes just arent fast enough)
12. SG (i hate rods and fire)
13. Combo (i click at 5-6 cps, and this ladder sucks donger for that)
14. Skywars ( its not fun at all for me, i dont want to worry about falling in the void and losing to someone because they can place blocks faster than me)
15. Horse ( fuck horses)

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 06:10 AM

1. No Debuff - The most strategical kit, since there are no debuffs.
2. Archer - Another strategical kit, but it relies mostly on luck now.
3. Soup - What I started with
4. Diamond - MELEE
5. BuildUHC - tryhard all day chug xdee
6. Gapple - tests your patience
7. Combo - tests your skill
8. AdvancedUHC -No absorption sucks
9. UHC - I can't bow
10. SG - FNS SUCK
11. Skywars - this ain't Hypixel
12. Iron - I hate bow
13. Kohi - I hate debuff
14. Vanilla - you die too fast
15. Horse (FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FU)

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 01:07 PM

How the actual fuck does node take strategy?

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 06:03 PM

17: IronSoup
16: Horse
15: Advanced
14: Vanilla
13: Gapple
12: SG
9: Diamond
8: Iron
7: Combo
6: UHC
5: Archer
4: Kohi
3: Skywars
2: NoDebuff
1: Build

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 09:25 PM

when to heal, people can't use debuffs to their advantage, when to speed pot again xdeee

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 09:26 PM

considering you're 44-45 in nodebuff i say you're just mad

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 09:31 PM

I couldnt care less about ratio anymore. It doesnt take anymore strategy than kohi xd

Posted on 26 January 2016 - 09:32 PM

you mean the circle strafe? dude that's key