Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:08 PM
It might have something to do with the proxy because when I used my iphone hotspot to connect to the server, there was no lag.Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 06:29 PM by Gardens
I don't 'really know that much about programming and stuff but maybe u should add seperate servers that are dedicated to arena PvP maps only and when a player match is over, the players both get teleported instantly to the arena PvP lobby. Also maybe u should limit the amount of maps, players would have to wait to get into a match but it might reduce lag.Don't judge my theory because idk how to explain properly.
Or maybe badlion should add command blocks where whenever a player died the command blocks will use /tp (player) (coords to spawn). Also badlion could also do this: So when ever a player is at spawn they should be in gamemode 3. But idk anything to do with programming .
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:19 PM
ty_rex222 wrote
@MasterGberry
If you have bad ping or lag
and you lava yourself before a ./spawn registers
https://gyazo.com/da556383d027121bbb025ce08c8aa243
It registers as two losses and it throws all the matches and stuff off
Order:
You ./spawn
You lava yourself and die
You have bad ping so your ./spawn registers now
It registers both your death and the ./spawn so you die twice throwing stuff off. This is how Fork's theory happens.
Forever after that, that mans' opponents are glitched
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/12931863
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/12931860
Sorry Mgberry. I can't record :(
If I do win though, can I get it on this account?
thanks
Also @ForkoSporko I watched the ginger elo video a couple of times and figured out how to duplicate this glitch you talked about. Thoughts?
@ty_rex222 I was able to reproduce the double match link bug (this is also what causes there to be a negative number of players in a queue), but I was unable to cause any other bugs from this bug. Looking through the code, I don't think this would even cause any other bugs even though the match ends twice.
Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 06:36 PM by ty_rex222
After this original bug takes place look what happens to the other person's matches?Start at 19:11 for an example
@SmellyPenguin
He keeps winning matches after the original bug. This is not on the end of the person that ./spawn -ed, but their opponent.
Lemme find some:
20:59
21:28
18:01
This glitch affects three groups,
the ./spawn -er
their opponent
the opponents of the opponent of the ./spawn -er
^^^^
Is that group of people stuck in an arena?(where they can break blocks in survival?)
The third group ends up stuck in an arena, in survival, with all their items, and they can break blocks.
@MasterGberry
The third group ends up stuck in an arena, in survival, with all their items, and they can break blocks.
This bug fits the issue completely
Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 06:36 PM by SmellyPenguin
@ty_rex222 What time did the actual bug occur? When I was testing it with killing myself with lava and /spawn'ing, both players got teleported to spawn normally and I could play matches fine on both players against a third separate player.Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:36 PM
ty_rex222 wrote
xKniqht wrote...
OMFG
You just got unbanned.
You're back at it already
Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 06:39 PM by ty_rex222
SmellyPenguin wrote
17:33
He gets a double win, which would trigger this chain if you keep testing. Maybe?
@SmellyPenguin
The immediate person doesn't have this glitch happen to him. It's all the opponents of his opponents…
Ik it's very complicated
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:38 PM
xKniqht wrote
ty_rex222 wrote...
Stop posting useless stuff in this thread or you'll get banned again.
Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 06:46 PM by ty_rex222
Lemme make this simple by using the vid.The DolnphinBeef guy ./spawns and dies to give Ginger 2 wins. 17:33
The win registers late, so Ginger goes to spawn in his next match. 18:00
Ginger's opponents are glitched in the arena, in survival, where they can break blocks until they ./spawn, so ginger wins the next match, thus the cycle continues. 20:59
Simpler @SmellyPenguin?
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The trigger is the bug I pointed out earlier. It gives somebody a double win that registers late(sometimes or all the time, not sure)
If the person who got the two wins keeps playing matches, the late win will interrupt the match.
This will leave a guy left in an arena, in survival, where he can break blocks.
When he ./spawns, he interrupts the next match.
The cycle continues.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:43 PM
SmellyPenguin wrote
xKniqht wrote...
Stop posting useless stuff in this thread or you'll get banned again.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:45 PM
ty_rex222 wrote
The DolnphinBeef guy ./spawns and dies to give Ginger 2 wins. 17:33
The win registers late, so Ginger goes to spawn in his next match. 18:00
Ginger's opponents are glitched in the arena, in survival, where they can break blocks until they ./spawn, so ginger wins the next match, thus the cycle continues. 20:59
Simpler @SmellyPenguin?
When I was recreating the bug, I got the two wins in a row like this image you sent me: https://gyazo.com/da556383d027121bbb025ce08c8aa243
Let me reduce the match time limit and see if that causes any problems. In the video though, Ginger gets two wins but they're not at the same time, they're separated.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:47 PM
@SmellyPenguin edited postRead it. It'll make a little more sense.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 06:56 PM
SmellyPenguin wrote
ty_rex222 wrote...
When I was recreating the bug, I got the two wins in a row like this image you sent me: https://gyazo.com/da556383d027121bbb025ce08c8aa243
Let me reduce the match time limit and see if that causes any problems. In the video though, Ginger gets two wins but they're not at the same time, they're separated.
These cases seem to be the exact same bug. They cause state of being able to break blocks and being in survival. In one case however, there is a delay which basically forces 5 people(or however many) into this glitched state. Imagine a server with 1000 people. If this bug occurs, there could be from 1-50 people in this glitched state. The issue is how does a double loss/win occur seperately.
Last edited on 06 February 2016 - 07:00 PM by SmellyPenguin
@ty_rex222 I see what you're saying now. The thing is that I'm not able to reproduce a scenario where the 2nd win is delayed, I always get both wins at the same time and both players teleport to spawn normally. I wait a while and there's no (third) match that ends because of a time limit (because I already got the two wins).Edit: Just read your above post, you're saying that the delay is attributed to general server load?
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:03 PM
SmellyPenguin wrote
Edit: Just read your above post, you're saying that the delay is attributed to general server load?
No. I'm saying that if a delay does occur, a lot of people will be glitched.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:07 PM
Obviously there are many problems with the lag. But there are solutions.1. Set a timer to kick ALL Idol players after 5-10 minutes. That will up the latency.
2. Remove the kits that are causing the lag. Although BuildUHC is the most popular kit, it may be the only way
3. Spread the players onto multiple servers with different hosts. This may not be the most viable option but again, it may be the only way.
4. Lower the player count on each server (NAE1, NAE2, etc.) This should lower the chunk updates because less matches are being played and less arenas are being used.
That's all that I could think of but I will continue to think on it. Thank you.
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:10 PM
MasterGberry wrote
ty_rex222 wrote...
I'll test it out in a bit.
I wouldn't be surprised if this were it…most of the issues we have had on Badlion (bug wise) are due to race conditions in Minecraft/latency.
Confirmed this is a bug. We have gone ahead and patched it. This might be leading to the overall issue but we have not been able to reproduce the exact scenario at the moment. Waiting to see if this fix solves the overall issue. The fix is now live on NA 3 (and will be live on the other servers over time).
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:28 PM
I won 3 matches but the rating messages didn't load, the data was glitching for everyone then, I guessand when I tried to invite someone to my party I got the message saying: "Please contact an admin" and so on
not sure if this even helps
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:33 PM
Lynkkis wrote
and when I tried to invite someone to my party I got the message saying: "Please contact an admin" and so on
not sure if this even helps
https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/93306
Posted on 06 February 2016 - 07:57 PM
Alright so first off I'm saying that this is just a random guess and I don't expect it to be this, but there is this "visual glitch" that occurs when you stay afk in the respawn screen after a builduhc match, where if you come back after being afk for a while you see about a million fishing lines from fishing rods around you. This might mean that these fishing lines are registered in some way maybe? Here's a screenshot from badlion tryhard of the visual glitch: https://twitter.com/BadlionTryHard/status/686211411089973248?s=09How to recreate the glitch: go afk for about half an hour in the respawn menu screen after you die in a buildUHC match.