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So i just realised the way people play this ladder is fucked up. what happened to using the bow like a rod and trying to get combos? All I see is people jump Crit block hitting and getting one hit, how is this fun? the person who can get 1/2 double hits wins. when I get over 1400 ill be leaving the ladder for a while
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take away bow (suggestion)
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Sasha8u wrote

take away bow (suggestion)

the bow is the only thing kinda keeping it ok imo. it allows for you to back off when you are low or finish fights
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Nah ID remove the bow, we have no sword only ladders without buffs or healing.
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Ryano_ wrote

So i just realised the way people play this ladder is fucked up. what happened to using the bow like a rod and trying to get combos? All I see is people jump Crit block hitting and getting one hit, how is this fun? the person who can get 1/2 double hits wins. when I get over 1400 ill be leaving the ladder for a while
it's because neither do anything, people will either completely tank the kb, or just take it 2 seconds later, at which point they've already got 2 hits on you
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DareDevil wrote

Nah ID remove the bow, we have no sword only ladders without buffs or healing.
yeah ok it's the only thing that keeps it from becoming 100% ping based lol
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DareDevil wrote

Nah ID remove the bow, we have no sword only ladders without buffs or healing.


It's based off the OCN diamond kit. On OCN, even with full diamond, people mostly use bows.
Edit: The vanilla thing was just a glitch. I still stand by everyting else I said.
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Because people don't know how to use the bow for combos or just can't use a bow in general. However the bow is kind of broken in 1.9 as of right now.
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My question to you is, what did you want to change in diamond kit?
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Remove all proj prot because then bow will be worth using and it wont be the shittiest ladder
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Traplord wrote

Remove all proj prot because then bow will be worth using and it wont be the shittiest ladder
We have enough bow ladders -_-
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Superjulesgaming wrote

My question to you is, what did you want to change in diamond kit?


IDK its a fun kit just to meele normally but the way it is now just isnt fun
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What sucks is that when you win people will run away till they're full health again. The person who cares the most about their elo wins.
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The whole point of kit diamond is to emulate an OCN situation, where bows are and were used quite frequently. Just because the kit might be played a little differently, it isn't necessarily "bad" or "wrong".
What about strategy? Skill in w-tapping? Timing your blockhits? Using your bow to an advantage? There's a lot more to the kit (and any kit for that matter) than you'd expect. I'll admit though, that it can be a frustrating gamemode to grind… :pp

I feel like removing the bow would entirely destroy the point of kit diamond, and would increase the number of jump-critters etc.
Besides, how would you resolve the issue? It isn't like you can force people to play differently.
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URGES wrote

The whole point of kit diamond is to emulate an OCN situation, where bows are and were used quite frequently. Just because the kit might be played a little differently, it isn't necessarily "bad" or "wrong".
What about strategy? Skill in w-tapping? Timing your blockhits? Using your bow to an advantage? There's a lot more to the kit (and any kit for that matter) than you'd expect. I'll admit though, that it can be a frustrating gamemode to grind… :pp

I feel like removing the bow would entirely destroy the point of kit diamond, and would increase the number of jump-critters etc.
Besides, how would you resolve the issue? It isn't like you can force people to play differently.

Im acctually fully in favour of the bow, as i said its the only thing keeping the ladder good.
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URGES wrote

The whole point of kit diamond is to emulate an OCN situation, where bows are and were used quite frequently. Just because the kit might be played a little differently, it isn't necessarily "bad" or "wrong".
What about strategy? Skill in w-tapping? Timing your blockhits? Using your bow to an advantage? There's a lot more to the kit (and any kit for that matter) than you'd expect. I'll admit though, that it can be a frustrating gamemode to grind… :pp

I feel like removing the bow would entirely destroy the point of kit diamond, and would increase the number of jump-critters etc.
Besides, how would you resolve the issue? It isn't like you can force people to play differently.


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Ryano_ wrote

Superjulesgaming wrote...



IDK its a fun kit just to meele normally but the way it is now just isnt fun

But nothing has changed about it lol
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I don't think many people share my opinion, but I'd be really happy to see the Diamond ladder switched to an all-melee ladder, basically. Kind of like the Legacy kit we had a little while back. I really enjoyed that kit, because it gave me such good practice in just plain sword combat.
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