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Hivlik in Vanilla
If you want to dodge EVERY SINGLE ONE of Hivlik's debuffs in Vanilla or probably any debuff kit do this.
-On the very first hit of the fight he will always throw a debuff basically. Just crit and then while in the air hold s. It gives you a ton of KB and you dodge his debuff.
-Wash and Repeat. He will literally do this every time.
Respect to @Hivlik. I have come close to beating him in Vanilla and should have beaten him, but he is a great player. Work on your debuffs though bud.
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This is why I don't use debuffs in vanilla except for the regen II splash pots, the manner/time when you throw them is so easy to read. Debuffs do nothing in vanilla anyway so lol
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knockback should be removed from vanilla to make it a skill based kit
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Hivlik wrote

knockback should be removed from vanilla to make it a skill based kit

Ily. Duel me no debuff sometime this weekend. I will show you I am not trash lol. I got Danteh to 2 pots last season. I have beaten numerous 2k's in no debuff.
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@HalfCreeper bow?
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SonicHD13 wrote

Hivlik wrote...


Ily. Duel me no debuff sometime this weekend. I will show you I am not trash lol. I got Danteh to 2 pots last season. I have beaten numerous 2k's in no debuff.

I throw debuffs differently at people with KB swords
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Hivlik wrote

SonicHD13 wrote...


I throw debuffs differently at people with KB swords

1v1 me vanilla kb sword and all I'll use nodebuffs and no kb sword GG
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Hivlik wrote

knockback should be removed from vanilla to make it a skill based kit

And here we go lads
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doggn wrote

This is why I don't use debuffs in vanilla except for the regen II splash pots, the manner/time when you throw them is so easy to read. Debuffs do nothing in vanilla anyway so lol


very untrue. If you get the weakness, slowness, poison, and the other doesn't, you're screwed.
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DaGoldBrick wrote

Hivlik wrote...


1v1 me vanilla kb sword and all I'll use nodebuffs and no kb sword GG

let's go vanilla no db no kb
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SirJensen wrote

doggn wrote...



very untrue. If you get the weakness, slowness, poison, and the other doesn't, you're screwed.

Poison is countered completely by the regen, weakness LITERALLY takes 0.5 hit points off your sword, so you do the same damage basically. And I just start jump-critting if i get slowness
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Hivlik wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...


let's go vanilla no db no kb

Baby don't be salty.
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doggn wrote

SirJensen wrote...


Poison is countered completely by the regen, weakness LITERALLY takes 0.5 hit points off your sword, so you do the same damage basically. And I just start jump-critting if i get slowness


Weakness has always given me a problem if the other person doesn't have it. I get like a 5 hit combo and they don't pot at all but they 3 hit kill me lol idk
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weakness does something!11 since most of the time you are trading hits 111! even half a heart matters 111!1111
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SirJensen wrote

doggn wrote...



Weakness has always given me a problem if the other person doesn't have it. I get like a 5 hit combo and they don't pot at all but they 3 hit kill me lol idk


If you miss all your debuffs and the opponent hits you with poision, weakness and slowness it's pretty much game over.
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Saevar2000 wrote

SirJensen wrote...



If you miss all your debuffs and the opponent hits you with poision, weakness and slowness it's pretty much game over.


yeah it's horrible xd
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DaGoldBrick wrote

Hivlik wrote...


1v1 me vanilla kb sword and all I'll use nodebuffs and no kb sword GG

I fought you last season using a kb sword, idk why you don't put one in your kit lol
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Saevar2000 wrote

SirJensen wrote...



If you miss all your debuffs and the opponent hits you with poision, weakness and slowness it's pretty much game over.

Sometimes it can be the opposite, I am horrible at debuffing and only bring 4 debuffs - I usually end up missing all 4, but with a KB sword and the good o'l Wspam I kept a decent KDR last season
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This started as a pretty clickbaity thread and ended as a discussion of the debuff meta of vanilla.

Nice.
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Unsighted wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...


I fought you last season using a kb sword, idk why you don't put one in your kit lol

How do you enjoy pvping with an advantage over people? Kb swords take the fun out of vanilla.
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