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Special Community Log #1 - Team Gamemodes and OCN

Archybot wrote

OCN actually got the 5v5 thing from us.


I just wanna publicly refute this because why not. As far as I know, when we made the move to 5v5, it was a completely internal decision with no external interests in mind. If I recall correctly, Badlion had not even done any 5v5 events when we had made the announcement. 5 is just a number, you can't be surprised that other people may have also thought of it. Large team sizes were becoming a problem with our gamemodes' metas, and lowering the sizes seemed like a decent step to take at the time. Badlion never entered the equation, but believe whatever you'd like.
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Thanks a lot for doing this. I've said some dumb/ignorant things about Badlion in the past, but I'm happy to see where this goes.
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ill sound like a nub
Wat is OCN, TDM and CTF?
the reason idk is cuz i only play Practice/ArenaPvP or FFA/KitPvP.
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Hype, let's see what will happen
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DTC is probably not going to be a gamemode on Badlion(for now). We don't feel it has a place with our player base.

If you are intrested in becoming a tournament staff, wait until the email changes(should be done soon). I will be taking care of them from now on since I'm head admin with archy for tournaments.
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OMG this sound rly nice, please help this amazing comunity
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Good job.
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ginie1 wrote

DTC is probably not going to be a gamemode on Badlion(for now). We don't feel it has a place with our player base.

If you are intrested in becoming a tournament staff, wait until the email changes(should be done soon). I will be taking care of them from now on since I'm head admin with arch for tournaments.

What will happen with conquer gamemode??
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yessss
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For 5v5 maps you could probably get Nea archi, Wrap, Abstract, Space Race and probably more that I dont know the names of. (OCN Maps)
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And will there be a section for Teams on the forums?
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Archybot wrote

we will look into gamemodes such as CTW that are unique to OCN


And DTC right? RIght Archy? Right???

EDIT: "Reads ginies comment"

oh well atleast i tried
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awe no DTC or DTM? those were two important gamemodes that i always found fun. gonna also assume no more fun maps (rush or arcade).

i'm absolutely sure you can replicate OCN's gamemodes but the maps won't ever be the same- the map variety and quality is a huge part of why people liked OCN, and it's not gonna be quite as enjoyable without some of the maps people loved.
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Parkway wrote

Archybot wrote...



I just wanna publicly refute this because why not. As far as I know, when we made the move to 5v5, it was a completely internal decision with no external interests in mind. If I recall correctly, Badlion had not even done any 5v5 events when we had made the announcement. 5 is just a number, you can't be surprised that other people may have also thought of it. Large team sizes were becoming a problem with our gamemodes' metas, and lowering the sizes seemed like a decent step to take at the time. Badlion never entered the equation, but believe whatever you'd like.


Please don't disrespect me like this, it's one of the main reasons relationships between OCN administration and Badlion administration never smoothed over. The official announcement of 5v5 for OCN came on December 29, after our tournament was publicly announced. Another topic where Cratain put forward the idea of 5v5 literally says

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Youtubers. I'm sure several of you are aware of those teams of Youtubers that have been forming - rest assured, so have we. Consistently, they seem to intend to play in 5v5 scenarios, with 8 man rosters. We are, of course, not guaranteed that they will play in our future events, but switching to this team size would make it much more possible for them to do so.


This literally counters your exact "no external interests" stuff you've tried to pull over me several times. You knew every well that these youtuber teams were forming for the unannounced Badlion tournament, that was well known about through the famous/staff circles of BL for several months at that point. The main pusher of 5v5 on OCN was an ex tournament staff member of Badlion who would have known about our plans way way before it was even brought up in OCN internals, which is the reason why everyone high up in BL decision making has NDAs now.
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DTC/DTM might come, but it would be decently far into the future and would have several rebalancing issues as the gamemode is very stalematey and poorly designed for competitive plan.
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GoldenOre wrote

Nice to see that the gamemodes will live on. I was wondering though, will you guys have a proper map submitting process and will you accept/use maps that were originally made for ocn (I have made quite a few maps)?


Once we get closer we will be updating that stuff. We do prefer the maps be made as a Badlion Map Dev because that way the "rights" can never be taken away.
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bend wrote

Are you looking for unique maps for Badlion? I have a lot of maps in the OCN system that I would hate to see go to waste. Edits / Updates can be made as needed, please respond.


I'm sure you're a busy guy but I'm really curious about this and I know a lot of others are too. No rush, just bringing it back to attention.

edit - ninjad by post above
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Steyn2g wrote

And will there be a section for Teams on the forums?

There's already one for "Clans" amigoo
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Steyn2g wrote

And will there be a section for Teams on the forums?


They already exist, they are called clans and come with your own private forums on BL and in game chat cross server, and will soon have stuff like clan ladders/scrims.
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