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Special Community Log #1 - Team Gamemodes and OCN
This log will be not focusing solely on developer side of things, but more on the community side of things when it related to team gamemodes and OCN. This is going to be very blunt, will probably hurt some feelings, but Badlion Administration has always tried to be as transparent as we can.

Lets get this out of the way - We will not be buying OCN for several reasons:
  • Their code base is pretty much incompatible with ours. We have a mainframe controlling our servers and all interactions, different databases/storage, different controllers for handling events and such, anticheat measures, we wouldn't be using any of their external code that isn't plugin level (website for example), and our server architecture is for 1.7 through 1.10.
  • Communities simply don't like buyouts.
  • They don't legally own the maps so they can't legally sell them (Mojang does).
  • If we bought them, we wouldn't want to wait until Sept 5.
  • The only thing they could offer legally that would be of use to us is their domain name, and I would venture to say 90%+ of their player base knows of Badlion already.

From a business point, buying it simply isn't the correct way for Gberry and I to handle this. But lets be honest, OCN was one of the two major communities I was a part of and why this network exists.

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Badlion Network started out as a simple KitPvP styled server focused on practice. The original BadlionPvP 1.0 was created by Archybot for his HCF/OCN Team called Badlion.

I'm not going to let the community that I was once a part of die out and I'm going to do my best to save it, especially since it is the Badlion Network's goal of becoming the one stop network for all Competitive Minecraft PvP, and team gamemodes have a place here.

OCN is known for their team gamemodes and competitive nature of their gamemodes. Here's what we are going to do to attempt to save the community:
  • We've already promised that we are going to have CTF and TDM servers and that they are close to now being done (before the end of summer vacation, barring delays). After they are out, we will look into gamemodes such as CTW that are unique to OCN, and making team servers that aren't unique to OCN, such as SG teams. Remember, we have to code these from basically scratch and now we have to fit them in with our current development roadplan.
  • We will be hosting a mega tournament for CTF once it is out. It will have prizes much greater then the 5v5 BuildUHC/SG tournament. Depending on how this does, we will probably host more team gamemode tournaments with prizes!
  • Whatever gamemodes we port will be compatible with 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, and future minecraft versions, all on the same shard. This is currently active and you can play all BL servers with any client (but might be buggy due to being new). We will continue to support 1.7 and 1.8 as long as their is a dedicated player base for them, while supporting the new versions.
  • GCheat will be updated to support these new gamemodes, which means if you are a dirty cheater you're going to get legit or get banned.
  • Several famous ex-OCN players have said they would return to play and advertise the OCN gamemodes on Badlion, mostly because of the anticheat and versioning.
  • We are looking into hosting more then just mega tournaments for team gamemodes, and our client side anticheat is currently under development for competitive tournaments.
  • Will look into a better ranking system for competitive game play so everyone can play.
  • We are going to be attempting to hire more mini game mods from OCN that wish to continue helping their gamemodes from having cheaters in them. If you wish to apply please apply for the correct staff teams (team gamemodes will be under minigame staff).
  • We are currently recruiting both map developers and event staff that need to new home to help us keep the high quality maps and high quality tournaments coming. Also apply.
  • Higher ups who want to really be a part of the Badlion team feel free to contact me on Skype or Discord.

Regardless of if OCN is bought out by someone else or not, we plan on doing the above since we know we can do it the best and the fastest.

This was typed out fast, so I'm sure I missed a lot of points and ideas, and of course there will be more updates in the upcoming days/weeks. Feel free to ask anything here.

EDIT: We didn't attempt to contact the owners of OCN, so please don't assume that.
EDIT2: Competitive will be 5v5, public will be a lot bigger
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first! Sounds good, I loved ocn
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sick
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Hype!
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hm
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If you were to do popular gamemodes that were played on OCN such as DTC and CTW would you make the team sizes 10v10 like they once were on OCN or would you make them 5v5 like most other competitive gamemodes?
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Are you looking for unique maps for Badlion? I have a lot of maps in the OCN system that I would hate to see go to waste. Edits / Updates can be made as needed, please respond.
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i was just about to post about the ocn announcement damn you're fast

side question: will there be an eu 5v5 build tournament in the near future?
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Well this might become my new main server now..
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insanegguy wrote

If you were to do popular gamemodes that were played on OCN such as DTC and CTW would you make the team sizes 10v10 like they once were on OCN or would you make them 5v5 like most other competitive gamemodes?


I would venture to say 5v5 because that's what Badlion has always been in the team world (clan wars, tournaments, clan ladder on Arena, etc), and it wouldn't make sense to have tournaments with different sizes. OCN actually got the 5v5 thing from us.
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What happens with DTC?
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Just don't do a shitty remake please, please make the code as close to OCN as possible, because I think they did their gamemodes the best of anyone else ive ever seen
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You guys should definitely go for the OCN style approach for maps and allow the community to submit maps with XML along with a map dev team to support the community. If you use any ideas from OCN, I would suggest using their approach to maps.
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oh baby
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Hype, could you use maps like Ring Race, Fractal , SSB, Harb , etc ? (old OCN maps)
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Sounds good, I just hope it's as close as how OCN is
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tranquilo makina q seguis ban
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I found that even though I only joined/started playing OCN a few months ago that clan battles or scrims would always take place on private servers. It would be interesting to see each clan be able to start up a scrim using private badlion servers.

Like a system where scrims and clan battles can be formally planned, with a calendar on the website or something, and then at that date a private server opens up where people from each clan only can join and have their scrim through badlion without having some special private server to scrim on.

I worded that strangely i hope you understand what i mean
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