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Does clicks matter?

Posted on 19 August 2016 - 10:24 AM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


Explain.

Emendings wrote

Not really I could be a god if I click 5 clicks but my aim is the best

Aim/Accuracy is all that matters

An OG named @Sprint only clicked like 6 cps but his aim was amazing and got high on the leaderboards

you two obviously don't click very fast then
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 10:26 AM

xXEnderDudezOP wrote

Unshift wrote...



Then why do so many sg/uhc players click so slow and a lot of pot pvpers click so fast?
Don't know, but I can tell you right now that cps matters much more in non-speed than pot.
Oh yeah, and Hivlik even said cps "matters a lot more in, like, rod ladders, but I don't know why."
ill find the exact video
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 10:51 AM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...


Emendings wrote...


you two obviously don't click very fast then

I click 10 CPS. I play just as well without, I just FEEL like I play better.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 10:59 AM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


Explain.
"A placebo is anything that seems to be a "real" medical treatment – but isn't. It could be a pill, a shot, or some other type of "fake" treatment. What all placebos have in common is that they do not contain an active substance meant to affect health." So you are saying that cps is placebo? It's definately not.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 12:46 PM

Khazars wrote

Methodically wrote...

"A placebo is anything that seems to be a "real" medical treatment – but isn't. It could be a pill, a shot, or some other type of "fake" treatment. What all placebos have in common is that they do not contain an active substance meant to affect health." So you are saying that cps is placebo? It's definately not.

As long as you get 5, there is nearly no difference. I know the definition of placebo, otherwise why would I use the word? And are you saying that I'm lying that WhatDefinesYou didn't get 2.4k with 5 cps? It's a placebo.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 12:59 PM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


As long as you get 5, there is nearly no difference. I know the definition of placebo, otherwise why would I use the word? And are you saying that I'm lying that WhatDefinesYou didn't get 2.4k with 5 cps? It's a placebo.

There is a huge difference.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:04 PM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


As long as you get 5, there is nearly no difference. I know the definition of placebo, otherwise why would I use the word? And are you saying that I'm lying that WhatDefinesYou didn't get 2.4k with 5 cps? It's a placebo.
i'm not saying that that guy didn't get 2.4k with 5 cps but cps isn't a placebo and there is a difference
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:04 PM

Justie wrote

Methodically wrote...


There is a huge difference.

There is a huge placebo. It barely affects anything. I might save one tick in the hit reg but in the Minecraft code the difference between 5 cps and 5000 is just 50ms max. That's irrelevant.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:05 PM

Khazars wrote

Methodically wrote...

i'm not saying that that guy didn't get 2.4k with 5 cps but cps isn't a placebo and there is a difference

Please, give me proof. If there isn't any other than feeling like you're playing better, then it's a placebo.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:08 PM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


Please, give me proof. If there isn't any other than feeling like you're playing better, then it's a placebo.
can you give me a proof that you have a brain? it's simple as that
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:10 PM

Methodically wrote

Khazars wrote...


Please, give me proof. If there isn't any other than feeling like you're playing better, then it's a placebo.
A placebo is something that makes completely no difference. Jitterclicking is not a placebo. It's a fact that your hits register faster when you get higher cps. Sure, you may feel sometimes that you pvp better when you don't, but that doesn't entirely make it a placebo.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:16 PM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...

A placebo is something that makes completely no difference. Jitterclicking is not a placebo. It's a fact that your hits register faster when you get higher cps. Sure, you may feel sometimes that you pvp better when you don't, but that doesn't entirely make it a placebo.

Placebo isn't the perfect word to use. It makes such a minor difference. Clicking 5 cps with a good beat (so you always click when you get a hit) can be as good if not better than 15 cps. By me jitter clicking, I play better. I know I do. I do better against the same players. When I jitter normally (aim isn't affected) I get 10cps and good aim. When I jitter hard I get 10 cps and terrible aim, but I feel like I play better when I jitter hard. I don't deny that there is technical merit to clicking faster, but it's so minute it's barely even a factor.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:18 PM

Methodically wrote

Unshift wrote...


Placebo isn't the perfect word to use. It makes such a minor difference. Clicking 5 cps with a good beat (so you always click when you get a hit) can be as good if not better than 15 cps. By me jitter clicking, I play better. I know I do. I do better against the same players. When I jitter normally (aim isn't affected) I get 10cps and good aim. When I jitter hard I get 10 cps and terrible aim, but I feel like I play better when I jitter hard. I don't deny that there is technical merit to clicking faster, but it's so minute it's barely even a factor.
what
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:20 PM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...

what

When I click harder. Normally I just slightly depress my click, but jittering hard is more hitting the lmb.
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Last edited on 19 August 2016 - 01:24 PM by Jahmyr

Methodically wrote

Unshift wrote...


When I click harder. Normally I just slightly depress my click, but jittering hard is more hitting the lmb.
what's the point of jitterclicking hard if you don't get more cps than jittering lightly, and get worse aim?
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:25 PM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...

what's the point of jitterclicking hard if you don't get more cps than jittering lightly, and get worse aim?

That's the thing. There's no logical reason I should play better, but I feel like I do.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:26 PM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...

what's the point of jitterclicking hard if you don't get more cps than jittering lightly, and get worse aim?
lol why do you even argue with him as i said he is brainless
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:27 PM

Methodically wrote

Unshift wrote...


That's the thing. There's no logical reason I should play better, but I feel like I do.
I think you mean you get more cps when jittering hard but have the tradeoff of worse aim, which would make sense to what you're saying :P
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 01:29 PM

Unshift wrote

Methodically wrote...

I think you mean you get more cps when jittering hard but have the tradeoff of worse aim, which would make sense to what you're saying :P

I mean to say that I don't get better cps and I get worse aim. There are literally no positives, but I feel like I play better.
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Posted on 19 August 2016 - 02:37 PM

@Metarus because you don't know how Minecraft works and think high cps doesn't do anything:

Excelia wrote


I was drunk(not rlly) when i made this post.
I thought 10ms =1 sec
That's wrong but the main idea can still be seen.
Thanks H2Q for pointing it out.

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Many people believe click speed doesn't matter, or Minecraft only registers 10 cps or 4 cps.
I'm going to put an end to this here.

Example:
Each server has a different set hit delay speed. (Some servers registers clicks faster than others; if you've ever played on mineplex, you would know that clicking fast there is a big deal.)

Lets say Server 1 has a hit delay of 4 ms

Here is a diagram of the hit delay of the server:

I____I____I____I____I____I____I____I____I____I____I

The "__" area is when the server registers your click/hit. "_" Is one ms (millisecond)

The "I" areas is where the person hits, or when the server hit delay is over.

Here is a diagram of a person who clicks 10 cps or every 0.1 of a second:

I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I

Here is a diagram of a person who clicks 6 cps or every 0.6 a second:

I______I______I_____I______I______I_____I

Now lets put these diagrams together:


https://gyazo.com/26c0f86b97cd995184ba36ec226ad340

Getting the hit before your opponent is very vital, as many pvpers know, as you can get a combo on the person your fighting.


So here's a short summary:
-Click speed does matter
-Faster click speed increases your chances of getting a combo


But you always have to keep in mind LATENCY of sending packets to the server and receiving them , RANGE of your melee attacks , and when your crosshair is on your opponents HITBOX (aim).

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

If you want another thread on how a combo works, tell me down there (arrow pointing down)

Thanks for reading,
-Excelia
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