Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 06 October 2013

Posts: 6935

Last edited on 24 October 2016 - 11:24 AM by Archybot

CTF is officially launched on Badlion. While this gamemode is young on our network, it holds a bright and important part of the Badlion future along with the competitive minecraft future. I hope you enjoy playing it as much as we enjoyed developing it.

CTF has received a lot of updates today and I will be listing them out for everyone. Please note that some of these fixes might not be live yet and will take a few games to cycle through the network, and also note that we might add a few more quality of life things over the next few weeks.

Competitive CTF

Competitive CTF is now available for private duels. In order to do this, get into a party of 5 using /party and then duel another party of 5 using /duel party_leader map_name - The best place to find clan battles and team scrims would be to join our discord located at https://discord.gg/badlion and ask for one in the clans-and-scrims channel. NOTE: this is not locked to clans, any party of 5 can use this.

Respawns are slightly slower in competitive

Competitive CTF is played on two team versions of our current maps

Anyone on a team can whitelist players to join their team by using /sub player_name - someone must logout before they can join though

You can join games you are whitelisted on by doing /server server_name if you are subbing in or disconnected.

New features

CTF lobby has been added, and it is where you will do team/clan battles and edit your kit.

In the pregame and observer menu, there is now settings menu. You can also access this mid game by typing /settings

There is a toggle kill messages in the settings menu, which can be set to only death messages related to you, none, all, and any that involve your teammates/you.

There is a toggle for teammate being able to boost you in the settings menu.

You can now configure your kit within the CTF lobby, which allows you to change where items are in your inventory/hotbar.

A compass has been added that can be toggled using right click to point at one flag at a time.

You cannot join a team that has more then 2 more players then the lowest team player count.

New stats related to flag capturing/protecting have been added.

Fixes

You now default to global chat while in pregame/postgame, and default to team chat while game is going on. You can send to different channels by doing /gc message (global) or /tc message (team).

Removed KDR from the visible stats.

Fixed random bugs throughout the week.

Known Bugs

Nametag above players can sometimes be the wrong color, including white.

There will be a few more changes as the game continues to grow. Enjoy

~Archy

PM Link

Unwise Premium

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 05 July 2015

Posts: 4153

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 12:35 AM

The improvements look great. Is competitive 5v5 for clans only, or could I hop on with 9 friends and duel?

PM Link

OriginalStrafe Members

Join Date: 09 May 2016

Posts: 51

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 01:28 AM

Is there going to be a non-competitive 2 team map?

PM Link

MasterGberry Premium+

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 06 October 2013

Posts: 17972

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 02:33 AM

Unwise wrote

The improvements look great. Is competitive 5v5 for clans only, or could I hop on with 9 friends and duel?

It is not locked to clans.

PM Link

MasterGberry Premium+

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 06 October 2013

Posts: 17972

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 02:33 AM

OriginalStrafe wrote

Is there going to be a non-competitive 2 team map?

No. Public gameplay will stay at 4 teams. More fun/chaotic.

PM Link

Metarus Premium

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 19 November 2015

Posts: 3236

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 02:39 AM

Looks great!

PM Link

Etai007 Members

Join Date: 10 February 2016

Posts: 342

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 03:30 AM

I never understood something, sometimes it shows how many flags the team captured but sometimes it doesn't show a number it shows flags or something… please help c:

PM Link

Entranced Members

Join Date: 31 March 2015

Posts: 376

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 04:49 AM

Etai007 wrote

I never understood something, sometimes it shows how many flags the team captured but sometimes it doesn't show a number it shows flags or something… please help c:

Before a teams score comes up, they have to capture each flag at least once. The flags you can see next to the team are the ones the team needs to capture.

PM Link

Etai007 Members

Join Date: 10 February 2016

Posts: 342

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 04:54 AM

Entranced wrote

Etai007 wrote...

Before a teams score comes up, they have to capture each flag at least once. The flags you can see next to the team are the ones the team needs to capture.

oh thanks i once saw that, but still i wasnt sure. thank you very much :D

PM Link

Ryankoo1 Members

Join Date: 05 June 2016

Posts: 584

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 06:38 AM

Am I the only one who has no idea what ctf is xd

PM Link

Kiivo Members

Join Date: 29 March 2015

Posts: 1498

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 07:38 AM

RIP, I was looking forward to an actual CTF Competitive Matchmaking like CSGO

PM Link

Luancool Premium

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 01 May 2015

Posts: 606

Last edited on 24 October 2016 - 07:49 AM by Luancool

why removed kdr ??, thats a rip i was just going for good kdr

PM Link

Hivlik Premium

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 12 April 2014

Posts: 8202

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 09:03 AM

Curious to hear your full reasoning behind making public CTF 4 team rather than 2 team.

PM Link

Archybot Premium

Positions:

- Retired Staff

Join Date: 06 October 2013

Posts: 6935

Last edited on 24 October 2016 - 11:19 AM by Archybot

HIVLIK wrote

Curious to hear your full reasoning behind making public CTF 4 team rather than 2 team.

Simple reasons
1. The community voted for 4 teams.
2. It's really not done elsewhere on minecraft, so it's nearly unique.
3. The only difference between competitive and public would be team sizes, which leads into my essay.

You can't just throw players into competitive and expect them to stay on average. You might keep 1% of your players like that. Everything needs a scaling system from casual to super competitive to keep the highest player retention. The most successful games have at least these 4 tiers, and some even have more stepping stones in between also.
Scale:
Casual
Transition
Competitive
Hyper Competitive

Here's an example of League of Legends:
C - Players vs AI
T - Unranked
Comp - Solo Ranked
HC - Team Ranked/Tournaments

Here's an example of Hearthstone:
C - Unranked/Vs AI
T - Arena
Comp - Ranked
HC - Tournaments

Now for our gamemodes:
Here's Arena
C - Party Events, FFA, Wars, LMS, etc (some of these dont currently exist)
T - Unranked
Comp - Ranked
HC - Tournaments

Here's UHC
C - UHC Meetup
T - MiniUHC
Comp - Hosted UHC
HC - Champions Game + Paid Games

Here's SG
C - 24 SG FFA/Teams
T - Nothing right now - will have something announced soon in the future
Comp - 5v5 Clan Battles
HC - Tournaments

Here's CTF
C - CTF Public 4 Team
T - Nothing right now - will have something announced soon in the future
Comp - 5v5 Clan/Team Battles
HC - Tournaments

You have to scale a gamemode be successful, have a lot of players, and have good flow of players into the higher tiers. This was the largest problem with OCN which imo was their largest downfall, was there is hardly any difference between competitive and casual which only appealed to competitive players, which increased cheating significantly because they have no anticheat and brought no new blood as old blood left. I think I made my point without writing a massive essay.

@Hivlik

PM Link

JusserBuilds Members

Join Date: 25 April 2016

Posts: 130

Posted on 24 October 2016 - 11:37 AM

Archybot wrote

HIVLIK wrote...

Simple reasons
1. The community voted for 4 teams.
2. It's really not done elsewhere on minecraft, so it's nearly unique.
3. The only difference between competitive and public would be team sizes, which leads into my essay.

You can't just throw players into competitive and expect them to stay on average. You might keep 1% of your players like that. Everything needs a scaling system from casual to super competitive to keep the highest player retention. The most successful games have at least these 4 tiers, and some even have more stepping stones in between also.
Scale:
Casual
Transition
Competitive
Hyper Competitive

Here's an example of League of Legends:
C - Players vs AI
T - Unranked
Comp - Solo Ranked
HC - Team Ranked/Tournaments

Here's an example of Hearthstone:
C - Unranked/Vs AI
T - Arena
Comp - Ranked
HC - Tournaments

Now for our gamemodes:
Here's Arena
C - Party Events, FFA, Wars, LMS, etc (some of these dont currently exist)
T - Unranked
Comp - Ranked
HC - Tournaments

Here's UHC
C - UHC Meetup
T - MiniUHC
Comp - Hosted UHC
HC - Champions Game + Paid Games

Here's SG
C - 24 SG FFA/Teams
T - Nothing right now - will have something announced soon in the future
Comp - 5v5 Clan Battles
HC - Tournaments

Here's CTF
C - CTF Public 4 Team
T - Nothing right now - will have something announced soon in the future
Comp - 5v5 Clan/Team Battles
HC - Tournaments

You have to scale a gamemode be successful, have a lot of players, and have good flow of players into the higher tiers. This was the largest problem with OCN which imo was their largest downfall, was there is hardly any difference between competitive and casual which only appealed to competitive players, which increased cheating significantly because they have no anticheat and brought no new blood as old blood left. I think I made my point without writing a massive essay.

@Hivlik

Anytime Hivlik asks a question we gotta turn on the essay machine lol

PM Link