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REMOVE THE BOW FROM VANILLA

chocs wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...


wow someones triggered

I don't say anything in threads where I see the point is clear (you talking about armoda, bean, or bragging about your high pvp rank) so I don't feel I need to post in order to milk your ego. I've posted in one or two of your threads, and I don't even recall calling you stupid, just disagreeing with you..
Going back on topic here, on EU my pot registration is so garbage, Vanilla is a ladder that pot registration matters a lot. In your PvP videos I can see you throw the pot then turn around and see the pot splashing on you as you turn. I have to run an extra 2-3 seconds to make sure my pot even gave me any health, so I just bring a bow and extra speed pots, bc not having to worry about my pots failing to register in an intense fight is relieving.
Btw I have 30ms to Badlion, so don't chat about my internet being bad, it's just horrendous on eu. Removing the bow would make PvP in Vanilla tactically less varied.
Has everyone forgotten about HalfCreeper and his bowing in this ladder? >.>

bean the australian has no problem potting fast and agroing, plus, your personal ping and skill level by itself should not determine what is in the ladder. and again, stop calling it a tactic, because its a "tactic" that requires breaking rules
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fucking ditch the rod aswell sick of retards playing this shit likes its build +1
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-1 this is the only reason i used to get 1700+ on pot ladders back a year ago.. @Hivlik would know. o/
so yeah no don't.

and for the rod. Whoever decided that it was an ok idea to add in any of the ladders. Please go away.. not u archy
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+1 i don't even play vanilla but watching that guy bow spam you as got me triggered af
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Every time this discussion comes up somebody throws in the word "tactics" and makes it sound like the end all be all of this argument. Just because a ladder is "more tactically varied" does not make it unarguably better. You know what else used to be a "tactic"? Camping, running out buffs, knocking people off high places in OCN kits, overusing pearls in archer ladder… These things were unbalanced and fundamentally not skill based, and in the sense of gameplay they were rewarded too much for the amount of skill they required. So they were rebalanced, be it with rules or a kit change. The fundamental argument that Knockback, Punch, and rods should be removed from Vanilla kit is the same: they are unbalanced and should be therefore fixed. "Tactics" has nothing to do with it.
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Even the hated ex-mod m0xy does it LOL
I fucked him up and he bow boosts the rest of the game
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/7455596
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+1
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Legendcaleb wrote

Even the hated ex-mod m0xy does it LOL
I fucked him up and he bow boosts the rest of the game
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/7455596
no one likes him bcuz of this l0l
he had a 13 min match with POW3R in vanilla in s12 where he got raped and bowspammed in a corner the rest of the time, I spec'd lmao
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Unshift wrote

Legendcaleb wrote...

no one likes him bcuz of this l0l
he had a 13 min match with POW3R in vanilla in s12 where he got raped and bowspammed in a corner the rest of the time, I spec'd lmao
oh i remember pow3r he was a babe
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+1 and fishing rod and kb 1/2 would also be nice being gone aswell
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iHackLiTE wrote

chocs wrote...


bean the australian has no problem potting fast and agroing, plus, your personal ping and skill level by itself should not determine what is in the ladder. and again, stop calling it a tactic, because its a "tactic" that requires breaking rules

ping rly doesnt matter that much, I got upto gold 1 gapple with over 250ms
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Ryankoo1 wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...


ping rly doesnt matter that much, I got upto gold 1 gapple with over 250ms
After 100 ms, less ping is better. Look at rands like FkPolice who legit only win because of their delayed KB
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Legendcaleb wrote

Ryankoo1 wrote...

After 100 ms, less ping is better. Look at rands like FkPolice who legit only win because of their delayed KB

not entirely true, not even danteh could be above average with over 1000ms
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Ryankoo1 wrote

Legendcaleb wrote...


not entirely true, not even danteh could be above average with over 1000ms
lol
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Archybot wrote

Been considering adding gapples (normal) but that would make bow spammers even stronger LOL

Noooo you should add another kit though that adds potions and gapples together! Like mineage.
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McNerdx should look at this thread.
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Also remove the bow and the rod please.
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Rocktah wrote

+127483827362918336827362827582827389723632666328726228916373926373828
I HATE THOSE SHITHEADS WHO RUN AND BOW THE WHOLE MATCH UNTIL I TAKE MY ARMOR OFF
._. ehem
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