Posted on 18 January 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Posted on 19 January 2017 - 12:10 AM

Dude even Jesus is backing premium… @MasterGberry you gotta see this

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 03:27 AM

I personally am looking forward to a bunch of hot headed idiots getting themselves banned or 1+ years l0l

Last edited on 19 January 2017 - 05:57 AM by Jinxful

Did it hurt btw when they nailed your arms and legs to a cross? On a scale of 1 to 10 how painful?

Other than that people will defo try to use randomised autoclickers and other 3rd party programs when premium first comes out

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 07:06 AM

And I'm gonna laugh so hard as they all find themselves banned l0l

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 08:08 AM

I am just waiting for the "ESL IS SO SHIT THEY MAKE THE WORST ANTI CHEAT I WAS FALSE BANNED" after kids buy like 6+ months of Premium and get banned right away because just because it's software that is "external" they thing it can't see it lol.

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 08:11 AM

everything can get bypassed
if the pentagon can get hacked into then why couldnt you bypass a minecraft anti cheat

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 01:12 PM

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Last edited on 19 January 2017 - 01:24 PM by Suitability

BAC will be better

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 01:27 PM

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Last edited on 19 January 2017 - 01:31 PM by Unsightable

I swear to god every other game I am faced against some Russian kid at top frag using aimbot or wallhacking, if that many people can get past an anticheat developed by esea then I really worry about how many people can bypass the new BAC

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 01:37 PM

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Posted on 19 January 2017 - 04:52 PM

Don't diss master manthe kid

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 05:02 PM

I believe he already said he wasn't going to attempt to bypass BAC, @Vykz correct me if wrong.

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 05:47 PM

Nobody knows if there will be bypasses but my best are that over time there will be. There are so many talented developers who will want to make a bit of money and find out how to bypass it and then create a cheat client and then sell it, but I think that Badlion will do there best efforts to eliminate any of these threads and plug up the holes :)

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 06:00 PM

"There will be cheaters on there sooner or later regardless. Personally I won’t be involved with that unless it’s worth the time to me, and that probably won’t be the case for a while."

-Manthe

By worth the time, he means if the majority of vape users play it. The majority of vape users only play on practice servers and hcf / faction servers. He won't be involved with Badlion premium unless more than 50% of vape users are going to be playing on premium, which will probably never be the case

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 08:47 PM

Manthe simply won't make a cheat for it because this is way out of his league. He obviously realizes that now that most Youtubers and legit players are leaving/waiting for premium because of the cheaters, they all said they are quitting Minecraft as a result of so many cheaters. When most of them come back and most likely start enjoying the game again and uploading a lot of people will start playing Premium and Minecraft again. Manthe said in that case "I will just get some CS:GO kid to do it", but him along many people are making a comparison when there will be no cheats for Badlion Premium because off..




Why the few cheats on CS:GO ESEA will mean no cheats on Badlion Premium.

1) CS:GO community is much larger than Minecraft PVP, if I were to guess I would say around 10x more players on CS:GO ESEA then there will be on Badlion ESEA. Having a MUCH larger community means that there are more coders able to create bypass cheats for ESEA.

1.5) The people playing Badlion Premium are usually a lot younger than those who play CS:GO ESEA. I would say that Minecraft PVP is 14-18 on average and CS:GO is most likely around 18-25+. This is huge as age of the people playing CS:GO are actually at the age where some of them go to school for computers and some of them may have a chance of learning something to create cheats. For Minecraft, High School education won't do shit to help you make anything.

2) For cheat developers this isn't something they have seen. It is much different then coding for something like an FPS game like CS:GO is which means they will be inexperienced and have to take the time to learn about it and then take more time to learn how to bypass it.
I don't think most ESEA cheat developers would want to take the time to learn how to bypass Minecraft ESEA, as there is much more money to be made in CS:GO

3) The market on CS:GO is much bigger and the very few cheat developers there are even in a community that large won't be coming to Minecraft. As mentioned above with the age difference, along with knowledge there is money. There have been constant complaints from people saying that it is just "Pay to Play" or it's to expensive. If people in this community can't afford $8 every month, than there is no way they are going to be able to afford a $300+ cheat to be made. And on top of that have to pay monthly/yearly fees to keep the cheat updated every day.

4) The actual launcher will be much harder to cheat on than CS:GO ESEA because with CS:GO you are still using the exact same game just you have an ESEA program. This Badlion Premium is literally a redesigned version of Minecraft with along with the normal ESEA anticheat like in CS:GO. This means that along with what makes CS:GO (virtually) cheat-free they also now have control over what can be injected or inputted into the game which means it's like having 2x the cheat protection as CS:GO.

5) The people who would be using the cheats. The people in Minecraft like I said are a lot younger, less mature and intelligent than those who play CS:GO ESEA. Even with very hidden cheats, CS:GO players have to think a lot about how to make it not look obvious for the people who watch the replay or view the clip (Which will be in Badlion Premium (game replays like you are recording a video)). You see videos all the time of people on YouTube who can easily figure out when someone is cheating with the most complex ways of hacking. If people watching/mods can notice this with CS:GO ESEA clips how easy do you think it will be to be able to find it if you are using Reach, Autoclicker, Aimbot, etc which is MUCH more noticeable to the eye.

@MasterGberry @Archybot Correct anything that is wrong because I don't want to convey information. It's just funny that people think that just because there are a few CS:GO cheats there will be Badlion Premium Cheats.

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 09:50 PM

nobody said it was gonna be easy to bypass BAC. But even they know that eventually in due time a bypass will come out. Whether it takes 6 months or 6 years it'll happen, even if it's once.

Posted on 19 January 2017 - 11:14 PM

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Posted on 19 January 2017 - 11:31 PM

@MasterGberry There are false flags caused by things like anti-cheats and some strange programs with no intention to cheat in the game, like in CSGO I've gotten kicked because of my anticheat acting up and not allowed VAC to perform properly. Will there be software that might false flag, and if so, will it just not allow you to connect to Premium or will it ban you on the spot?