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as arena open will have the option for anticheat only matchmaking already if you are premium,
bac only matchmaking is working?
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Jinxful wrote

Yeah 3 kits would be a good compromise. All of which should warrant a smaller prize for first place

This
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Jinxful wrote

Yeah 3 kits would be a good compromise. All of which should warrant a smaller prize for first place
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This is fantastic news!
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imo the option of 3 kits from different type of ladder (Three kits available every two weeks: BuildUHC, a potion/soup ladder, and a non potion/soup ladder.) would be good and each top #1 gets a prize. Also if these ladders were randomized so it wasn't the same 3 every week i think that would also keep people actively playing.
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It seems to me wrong that those who have mac can not enjoy the badlion premiun …

Please tell badlion date premiun on mac
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I think 1-2 kits would be good.
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You guys need to note that the non potion and potion/soup ladders rotate every two weeks, so one week it might be nondebuff and archer, then the next week is debuff and diamond.
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iHackLiTE wrote

i would prefer #1 for each ladder with a smaller prize, otherwise all the builduhc players get a global advantage since youre using that every week and i cba to get masters nodebuff 6000 points in 2 weeks

+1
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I love the idea; queuing just takes more than forever.
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bow ladder, pot ladder, sg/builduhc

Don't think anybody will complain about you swapping off sg and build weekly, and it'd get people playing sg again, which iirc once upon a time was the most popular ladder for the same reason build uhc is today

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HIVLIK wrote


Don't think anybody will complain about you swapping off sg and build weekly



Oh boy do I disagree with this statement
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Archybot wrote

HIVLIK wrote...



Oh boy do I disagree with this statement


As much as I know you want people to play, give people variety and on Open people will venture out into different kits and it won't just be Build and NoDebuff that get queued. Hivlik knows this too, season 12's variety was so good in the sense that people PLAYED kits like Vanilla and Horse.
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ProgressiveHouse wrote


season 12's variety was so good in the sense that people PLAYED kits like Vanilla and Horse.


I have direct statistics saying you are wrong. Having any ladders besides these three:
BuildUHC
NoDebuff
SG
is going to piss off more people then people are thankful for.
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HIVLIK wrote

bow ladder, pot ladder, sg/builduhc

Don't think anybody will complain about you swapping off sg and build weekly, and it'd get people playing sg again, which iirc once upon a time was the most popular ladder for the same reason build uhc is today


This makes a lot of sense because they're the two rod ladders, but like this what about kits like Diamond and Soup? Would Soup take a pot slot since it has speed? And Diamond? I personally think it would be better for the actual ladder, but I don't think build is permanent for the sake of being competitive so it may be pointless to try and dethrone the kit.
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Archybot wrote

ProgressiveHouse wrote...



I have direct statistics saying you are wrong. Having any ladders besides these three:
BuildUHC
NoDebuff
SG
is going to piss off more people then people are thankful for.


unfortunately we don't have access to these stats and unfortunately nobody is willing to try other kits. I do support the 3-kit idea though
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Looks good but maybe change Build to include SG too (and IronBuild if its coming back) so it would look like this:

Rod (Build, SG, maybe IronBuild), Sword (Debuff, NoDebuff, Gapple, Vanilla, Soup and Diamond) and Archer (UHC, Iron, Archer, Horse)

Idk just an idea. I guess you could put diamond in with the rod kits if there are too many sword kits.

Archybot wrote

You guys need to note that the non potion and potion/soup ladders rotate every two weeks, so one week it might be nondebuff and archer, then the next week is debuff and diamond.


Diamond isn't really a bow kit
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Archybot wrote

HIVLIK wrote...



Oh boy do I disagree with this statement

Yeah? I mean, people don't really have anything to complain about. "Oh no, the same people don't get to win $50 again this session?? How dare those stupid Badlion owners do this!" Build is so popular now not because people care about the competitiveness of arena, but because they find it the best way to practice for real UHCs, among other things. Arena has always been split between practice and raw competition, but this 1v1 league is not, or rather should not be. As far as I can see, this league should be built to be competitive, and not practice as 1v1s have arguably been in the past, and having the same kit over and over for no good reason doesn't make sense to me. Indeed, BuildUHC utilizes a good many talents that you don't see in the other kits, but SG is not too far removed. In fact, and correct me if I'm wrong, I believe SG was the most popular ladder before Build came around. It would appeal to the same playerbase that would take the Build league competitively, while those that use Build for practice still have ample access to Build in duels and on Open.
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