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Puok wrote

Radioactivebeans wrote...

You're obviously not going to understand and think differently because you're in Rift.


That's really unneccesarry I put up arguments and you are just gonna say they don't matter cause I am in rift?
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Radioactivebeans wrote

Puok wrote...



That's really unneccesarry I put up arguments and you are just gonna say they don't matter cause I am in rift?
Exactly, your opinion is biased towards Rift so you're obviously going to be making an argument for your clan, plus your points aren't very solid and are situational and i've already explained most in my other posts or on my thread that is sort of related to this.
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Puok wrote

Radioactivebeans wrote...

Exactly, your opinion is biased towards Rift so you're obviously going to be making an argument for your clan, plus your points aren't very solid and are situational and i've already explained most in my other posts or on my thread that is sort of related to this.


Me being in a clan doesn't really affect my arguments as they are not all "opinions" you have yet to say anything solid about my points
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Intimidated wrote

Zaptelus wrote...



O BUBBER oh…
Our home and native clan.
Through patreot love,
In all thy son's command.
With glowing hearts,
We see thee right,
The true north strong and free.
From far and wide,
O BUBBER oh,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our clan,
Glorios and free.
O BUBBER oh,
We stand on guard for thee.
O BUBBER oh,
We stand on guard for thee.
@*deleted-96553 Very original.
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Puok wrote

Kiivo wrote...

I only comment about that if it's appropriate smh. He asked for my honest opinion on Rift and i gave it to him. I already stated my point so i'm not going to repeat myself, but i'm pretty sure clans were made to battle each other the majority of the time (obviously making a community within your clan is important but you don't have to do it like these big clans are it's over the top) but hey, times have changed people care more about building their communities than doing the thing clans were made for. (Battling)

EDIT: Also not everyone wants to pay for or doesn't have enough money to pay for premium.

When clans build strong, great communities, people would rather just join that community than make their own. Furthermore the likes of Rift and Ominous are strong teams aswell so skilled players are more attracted to those clans than making their own. Because of this certain clans grow to extremely large numbers that can be sustained if organised well

I'm not against you if thats your opinion on Rift and other large clans and I agree that clan wars / clan competition is dying out but I have just accepted the fact that clans are for community as both Archy and Gberry have stated on your "reduce clan numbers" thread, even if they were originally made for competition. At this stage of the clans community and with premium teams and official competition hopefully coming soon, its too difficult for competition to ever become the forefront of clans really
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Kiivo wrote

Puok wrote...


When clans build strong, great communities, people would rather just join that community than make their own. Furthermore the likes of Rift and Ominous are strong teams aswell so skilled players are more attracted to those clans than making their own. Because of this certain clans grow to extremely large numbers that can be sustained if organised well

I'm not against you if thats your opinion on Rift and other large clans and I agree that clan wars / clan competition is dying out but I have just accepted the fact that clans are for community as both Archy and Gberry have stated on your "reduce clan numbers" thread, even if they were originally made for competition. At this stage of the clans community and with premium teams and official competition hopefully coming soon, its too difficult for competition to ever become the forefront of clans really
What you're saying isn't wrong i just want clans to be more interesting that's all 🤷🏿‍♂️
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Puok wrote

What you're saying isn't wrong i just want clans to be more interesting that's all 🤷🏿‍♂️

Maybe you wouldn't know because you arent in a clan rn, but I know in Ominous example we have 2 - 3 clan events daily where we all get on and play stuff together be it competitive like CTF or something casual like Hypixel. Luckily we are also organised enough to be able to find 2 - 3 clan wars every week unlike other clans so the competitive side isn't as bad for our clan specifically
So all that on a weekly basis is interesting but its very dependant on which clan u are in

btw @Radioactivebeans
I do 100% agree with Puok that these larger clans make it harder for clan competition to occur because us bigger clans are very reluctant to fight eachother because we don't wanna put a Loss on their thread
*cough* Rift VS Stride *cough*

For example Rift and Stride have both been around for around 3 - 4 months and yet only have 3 official clan wars each?
https://gyazo.com/9d20642e2a0692e72e910240eaa36756 https://gyazo.com/57d0552d1559501f7cf7a6b181660d43

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Kiivo wrote

Puok wrote...


Maybe you wouldn't know because you arent in a clan rn, but I know in Ominous example we have 2 - 3 clan events daily where we all get on and play stuff together be it competitive like CTF or something casual like Hypixel. Luckily we are also organised enough to be able to find 2 - 3 clan wars every week unlike other clans so the competitive side isn't as bad for our clan specifically
So all that on a weekly basis is interesting but its very dependant on which clan u are in

btw @Radioactivebeans
I do 100% agree with Puok that these larger clans make it harder for clan competition to occur because us bigger clans are very reluctant to fight eachother because we don't wanna put a Loss on their thread
*cough* Rift VS Stride *cough*

For example Rift and Stride have both been around for around 3 - 4 months and yet only have 3 official clan wars each?
https://gyazo.com/9d20642e2a0692e72e910240eaa36756 https://gyazo.com/57d0552d1559501f7cf7a6b181660d43



That is mostly because other clans don't want to have a loss on their page, believe me I try to convince people to do clan wars instead of scrims
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Kiivo wrote

Puok wrote...


Maybe you wouldn't know because you arent in a clan rn, but I know in Ominous example we have 2 - 3 clan events daily where we all get on and play stuff together be it competitive like CTF or something casual like Hypixel. Luckily we are also organised enough to be able to find 2 - 3 clan wars every week unlike other clans so the competitive side isn't as bad for our clan specifically
So all that on a weekly basis is interesting but its very dependant on which clan u are in

btw @Radioactivebeans
I do 100% agree with Puok that these larger clans make it harder for clan competition to occur because us bigger clans are very reluctant to fight eachother because we don't wanna put a Loss on their thread
*cough* Rift VS Stride *cough*

For example Rift and Stride have both been around for around 3 - 4 months and yet only have 3 official clan wars each?
https://gyazo.com/9d20642e2a0692e72e910240eaa36756 https://gyazo.com/57d0552d1559501f7cf7a6b181660d43




no other clan responds? you guys apparently fought clans like Jitters, SuccessRod and other clans no one has heard of?
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skwurtle wrote

no other clan responds? you guys apparently fought clans like Jitters, SuccessRod and other clans no one has heard of?


Exactly its very difficult to convince the more known clans in the community to fight "officially". I don't know how the officers do it but they always find a way to find teams / clans that are willing to do an "Official" Clan War
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Kiivo wrote

skwurtle wrote...



Exactly its very difficult to convince the more known clans in the community to fight "officially". I don't know how the officers do it but they always find a way to find teams / clans that are willing to do an "Official" Clan War


you should hmu with some clans that lurk
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Radioactivebeans wrote

Puok wrote...


Rift isn't holding back anything. There still are a lot of clans it would be a problem if Rift was by FAR the most dominant clan. Even on MCSG there were a lot of clans as you want it to bebut there were always a few specific dominant clans for ex: Rasclarts

There will be concequences if you limit the player count like:

- Being forced to kick a player when one of the better players join the clan.

- Less people making it to the clan wars (Global clans need a variation of players)

- Having trouble keeping the clans alive. If around 10 people leave the clan around the same time it will have a huge impact on the future of the clan.

70-10= 60 Not too bad
25-10= 15 That's a problem

When the amount of players drop drastically the owner will be less motivated to revive the clan and even more players will leave

:(
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what af aggot
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Hamatito wrote

what af aggot
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Terrible clan, definitely not a good clan c;




Awesome Job tho, hope you reach whatever goal you have for this clan, can really see this clan going somewhere, even more than it already has. Good Luck
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im super proud of you bro xD!
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Hamatito wrote

what af aggot
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rift would be much better if you guys focused more on building a community of players that liked and could cooperate with each other, rather than just adding people with good stats, butt it's still the 2nd best clan on the server IMO
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Skillapp wrote

rift would be much better if you guys focused more on building a community of players that liked and could cooperate with each other, rather than just adding people with good stats, butt it's still the 2nd best clan on the server IMO

Like for example, skwurtle was considering adding a bow player who had a great stats, but he had negative relations with the rest of the NA bow roster. He asked all of us if we approved of the player being added. We all said no. Because of that 2 NA bow players have already left and I know of 2 more that are going to be leaving.
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