Posted on 16 April 2017 - 01:05 PM
Yeah let's let people look through my files. Oh wait, my irl name and personal info is right there in the open and of course they have to go through it. True storyPosted on 16 April 2017 - 02:40 PM
Zaptelus wrote
Alpha527 wrote...
you can't get banned for having cheats on your pc unless the mods can prove that you used them,but some shitty servers ban if you have injection clients on your pc
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 02:59 PM
Jinxful wrote
It's a high profile tournament ( screenshares took place anyway)
This, also a large amount of people do not correctly know how to screenshare. @Vykz is someone who is very good at doing it and knows how it all works.
Last edited on 16 April 2017 - 03:15 PM by Kiivo
Alpha527 wrote
Magiclz wrote...
I'm guessing a player might get banned for having an illegal mod / client downloaded even though they did not use it on badlion / at the time of being frozen
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 04:44 PM
i think if your banned from lounge or other screensharing servers permanently, and people suspect someone to be cheating, Badlion should look more into it.Posted on 16 April 2017 - 04:46 PM
skwurtle wrote
Maybe, they already do a lot of "looking into it" already. This might help and might not, all depends on the person/type of hack/environment.
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 04:47 PM
Heffernan wrote
skwurtle wrote...
Maybe, they already do a lot of "looking into it" already. This might help and might not, all depends on the person/type of hack/environment.
i know people who are accused of cheating and are banned on lounge perm meaning you cant buy a unban, and are currently on leaderboards.
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 05:26 PM
too many cheaters to screenshare them allPosted on 16 April 2017 - 05:28 PM
Struggles wrote
Badlion is such a big network and with all their gamemodes, it would just be too hectic. Just take UHC for example, if someone needed to be SS'd in a UHC and your the only one in there (host). Who is going to take care of the game while it runs. Also that poor dude might not be cheating and someone might come along and kill him.
Screensharing just doesn't belong on Badlion network. That's as simple as that
Regards,
Heffernan
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 05:30 PM
Vykz coming in so ya better self destructPosted on 16 April 2017 - 05:32 PM
Time consuming and evades privacy. -1Posted on 16 April 2017 - 09:59 PM
Well I don't believe a lot of false bans would occur because staff would be educated. I believe more false bans could come from evidence uploaded by mods. But screen sharing first of all, takes a considerable amount of time, second it doesn't always find the client especially with autoclickers and the release of vape lite, forth it is an invasion of privacy to a certain extent, fifth we would have to educate the staff, sixth we would need translators for a lot of players due to the fact that badlion is a diverse community, seventh join.me and different screensharing problems have issues, eighth badlion premium defeats the need of it. That pretty much sums it up. I have wanted to screen share in the past or have the option to but it does come with a lot of problems. I personally have been ssed 73 time since April of 2016 which has wasted over 30 hours of my time so as a player it can get frustrating. I also have been false banned for vape and other clients due to staff not knowing what they are doing. Screen sharing can work successfully like we have seen on minehq but it needs a good infrastructure behind it which badlion is not set up to do. With badlin premuim I don't believe it is worth badlions time. Rant done.Posted on 17 April 2017 - 07:03 AM
The only way a false ban can occur is if the person screensharing the player is a complete fucking dickwad and flat out an imbecile. Some servers ban you for owning clients or auto clickers, whereas MineHQ and I myself agree to this, that you should only be banned if you're using the cheat. Whether it's a client or auto clicker, we need hardcore evidence you were using it.Invasion of privacy huh? Guess that's why Badlion screenshared for the CTF tournament right? No offense but I wouldn't let a single Badlion staff (below admin) screenshare me. Because I guarantee more than half of you won't know what the fuck you're doing or what to look for. My screensharing that I do is all within "privacy" limits. I don't look through any personal files. I make you download a PUBLIC program that acts like Windows Task Manager and I take it from there, looking ONLY at your minecraft. Other servers go to great lengths and I think it's pretty fucking dumb. The only servers that do that are the ones that don't know how to screenshare. Recently, a lot of my twitter DMs have been asking on whether or not something was a false ban etc. and for the most part it is. It's just a general fact that staff on low bootleg end servers are idiots. Some might be smart, but most are not.
Premium is something that was meant to stop cheating and give a better gameplay experience that lots of people enjoy. While it does stop the cheating, how many people actually USE premium? Haven't seen that many numbers on it grow so I can only assume only the people doing 128 TPS 1v1s. Also, not every staff would screenshare. Only a select few that actually have a brain, no offense. The more staff using methods = more likely for it to be patched. This leads to screensharing being pointless. Why do you think I keep any method I have to find clients to myself?
Screensharing is effective and efficient if done by the right person. Literally takes me 5 minutes max to just check to see if someone is using a client or not. Autoclickers — I'll let server side anti cheats handle that.
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 08:19 AM
Vykz wrote
Invasion of privacy huh? Guess that's why Badlion screenshared for the CTF tournament right? No offense but I wouldn't let a single Badlion staff (below admin) screenshare me. Because I guarantee more than half of you won't know what the fuck you're doing or what to look for. My screensharing that I do is all within "privacy" limits. I don't look through any personal files. I make you download a PUBLIC program that acts like Windows Task Manager and I take it from there, looking ONLY at your minecraft. Other servers go to great lengths and I think it's pretty fucking dumb. The only servers that do that are the ones that don't know how to screenshare. Recently, a lot of my twitter DMs have been asking on whether or not something was a false ban etc. and for the most part it is. It's just a general fact that staff on low bootleg end servers are idiots. Some might be smart, but most are not.
Premium is something that was meant to stop cheating and give a better gameplay experience that lots of people enjoy. While it does stop the cheating, how many people actually USE premium? Haven't seen that many numbers on it grow so I can only assume only the people doing 128 TPS 1v1s. Also, not every staff would screenshare. Only a select few that actually have a brain, no offense. The more staff using methods = more likely for it to be patched. This leads to screensharing being pointless. Why do you think I keep any method I have to find clients to myself?
Screensharing is effective and efficient if done by the right person. Literally takes me 5 minutes max to just check to see if someone is using a client or not. Autoclickers — I'll let server side anti cheats handle that.
Yeah because you so find those methods yourself noob
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 10:37 AM
Erouax wrote
Vykz wrote...
Yeah because you so find those methods yourself noob
Last edited on 17 April 2017 - 11:04 AM by HalfCreeper
Vykz wrote
Too bad you don't decide what privacy limits are.
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 02:04 PM
HalfCreeper wrote
Vykz wrote...
Too bad you don't decide what privacy limits are.