Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:03 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
You're just as bad on EU as you are on NA* that's different. As I said, there are some videos about the tournament and you can see that we can't dodge arrows but of course that's because we didn't train on NA lol not because we can't anticipe the future and our reaction time isn't faster than 0,1s. You know, i don't care about your thoughts like i don't care being mature in front of you. You don't know what you're talking about, you probably played minecraft in solo for 2 hours i think. Stop acting like you're understand this game.
So basically all you said in this post was you didn't train on NA and it's harder for you to dodge. I can understand that but you need to listen. You basically just said that you didn't train on NA. So that's YOUR problem LOL
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:03 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
Idk what your first sentence was supposed to mean because it's literally an incomplete fucking sentence. AND WHY DOES MY RANK MATTER HOLY SHIT LOL. Even though 2 players are from NA it doesn't mean they will have EQUAL PING. Also, your last 2 sentences are just dumb because you don't back up why you think it's a joke and your just spewing out your own subjective thoughts. G_G
Your rank matters because Gold III is bad so how can I get your opinion seriously ? Oh and 2 NA players have both between 10 and 100ms i think so EU players still have +100ms than NA players.
Last edited on 20 July 2017 - 11:06 AM by BustyBista
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
Your rank matters because Gold III is bad so how can I get your opinion seriously ? Oh and 2 NA players have both between 10 and 100ms i think so EU players still have +100ms than NA players.
I don't fucking grind Badlion. I bet if I did grind I could get a better rank. I can compete on the same level as you on some kits. And btw, the USA has the 28th best average internet speed in the world and most EU countries have a better rank than them XD
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:06 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
So basically all you said in this post was you didn't train on NA and it's harder for you to dodge. I can understand that but you need to listen. You basically just said that you didn't train on NA. So that's YOUR problem LOL
So NA players have to train on EU for EU tournaments ? LOL. This is not sports, this is not fair. We should play with equal avantages and disavantages.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:08 AM
Ponca wrote
Bestaquiio wrote...
I never specified that having 150ms would be advantageous in archer. It's possible the outcome would be different but as I keep on saying if NA players practiced a ton on EU they could still perform on the same level as EU players
Don't get the point of your argument anyway, we just want to have good pings in some tournaments and I think that's understandable, isn't it?
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:09 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
So NA players have to train on EU for EU tournaments ? LOL. This is not sports, this is not fair. We should play with equal avantages and disavantages.
The only thing that's gonna be fair is to host a LAN tournament for Minecraft LOL. And like I said earlier, hosting a major EU tournament would set an unstable precedent for future tournaments.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:09 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
I don't fucking grind Badlion. I bet if I did grind I could get a better rank. I can compete on the same level as you on some kits. And btw, the USA has the 28th best average internet speed in the world and most EU countries have a better rank than them XD
NA players still have a better ping on NA so they have some advantages. And nah you can't compete on the same level as me on some kits ^^. From what you're saying, I don't think you can succeed in this game.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:10 AM
naimsm wrote
Ponca wrote...
Don't get the point of your argument anyway, we just want to have good pings in some tournaments and I think that's understandable, isn't it?
Thank you for having a point. And yes, I can understand that but that shouldn't be the way. Hosting on NA should be the best option for all. If you practice on NA a lot and get used to the consistent ping difference then you should be fine for most things.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:11 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
The only thing that's gonna be fair is to host a LAN tournament for Minecraft LOL. And like I said earlier, hosting a major EU tournament would set an unstable precedent for future tournaments.
Hosting a major tournament on EU or NA makes the same problems. It is unfair for a region. And you're just saying that NA is better for hosting tournament which is dumb.
Last edited on 20 July 2017 - 11:13 AM by Bestaquiio
Ponca wrote
Bestaquiio wrote...
I never specified that having 150ms would be advantageous in archer. It's possible the outcome would be different but as I keep on saying if NA players practiced a ton on EU they could still perform on the same level as EU players
No, you can't just say that. You can practice playing with higher ping to get used to it, but you'll never reach the same skill level with twice the ping. Long range archer fights for instance, are highly based on raw reaction time, and the time that's given to you to avoid an arrow is the difference of the time that the arrow takes to travel from your opponent to you, minus your own ping.
You can't just get good at playing archer with higher ping. You can kinda fix your aim I'd you're used to it, but you'll never be able to dodge as easily.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:11 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
NA players still have a better ping on NA so they have some advantages. And nah you can't compete on the same level as me on some kits ^^. From what you're saying, I don't think you can succeed in this game.
Yes I don't succeed in this game because I haven't won a tournament on Badlion. Oh wait, I actually have!
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:12 AM
Ponca wrote
naimsm wrote...
Thank you for having a point. And yes, I can understand that but that shouldn't be the way. Hosting on NA should be the best option for all. If you practice on NA a lot and get used to the consistent ping difference then you should be fine for most things.
In a competition, you don't have to ruin your level in order to be used to the consistent unfair advantage the opponent has.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:13 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
Hosting a major tournament on EU or NA makes the same problems. It is unfair for a region. And you're just saying that NA is better for hosting tournament which is dumb.
Most previous tournaments have been hosted on NA so why not keep it. Why the switch?
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:13 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
In a competition, you don't have to ruin your level in order to be used to the consistent unfair advantage the opponent has.
English please?
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:13 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
Yes I don't succeed in this game because I haven't won a tournament on Badlion. Oh wait, I actually have!
I don't care.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:15 AM
Bestaquiio wrote
Ponca wrote...
No, you can't just say that. You can practice playing with higher ping to get used to it, but you'll never reach the same skill level with twice the ping. Long range archer fights for instance, are highly based on raw reaction time, and the time that's given to you to avoid an arrow is the difference of the time that the arrow takes to travel from your opponent to you, minus your own ping.
You can't just get good at playing archer with higher ping. You can kinda fix your aim I'd you're used to it, but you'll never be able to dodge as easily.
Don't you mean short range archer fights? Long range you can see the arrow earlier and move accordingly. The future of Badlion competitive is going to be OCN gamemodes. Idk why you and your buddy is trying to make archer fights seem like it's the only way to kill people on this server.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:15 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
English please?
They have a unfair advantage. It's a competition, so everyone should have the same disadvantage and advantage. So i shouldn't have to play with only 30% of what i can do just because the tournament is on NA.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:16 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
Most previous tournaments have been hosted on NA so why not keep it. Why the switch?
Never said we wanted to switch, we just said we wanted to have some tournaments hosted on EU and some on NA, no need to host a lot, I can understand that there are more tournaments on NA than EU but EU is one of the biggest community of badlion, if not the biggest, and we just would like to have a better chance of winning those since the ping difference really is a disadvantage and you can't deny it.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:16 AM
Ripenpaix wrote
Ponca wrote...
They have a unfair advantage. It's a competition, so everyone should have the same disadvantage and advantage. So i shouldn't have to play with only 30% of what i can do just because the tournament is on NA.
That's never gonna happen.
Posted on 20 July 2017 - 11:18 AM
Ponca wrote
Ripenpaix wrote...
That's never gonna happen.
Yes and that's why, their tournaments don't make any sense and are unfairs af.