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It's already competitive lol. Maybe not LAN competitive, but you can't just deny that it isn't competitive with the already existing tournaments and competitive metas.

I'm talking about a known competitive game. Such as overwatch cs rocket league, LoL, etc people know that it is a competitive game. People think minecraft is a building game for 9 year olds.

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 03:45 AM

If minecraft were to be a popular e-sport game, it wouldn't.
If it will ever go anywhere a rip off minecraft should be made with the exact same mechanics so badlion will have full creative freedom and can do what the fuck they want, it should only be announced when the game is actually ready to get all the hype players on board too.

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 04:17 AM

I completely agree with you here. But unfortunately to many of us Minecraft PvP is the only PvP we get to experience considering our graphics cards aren't the best. But I recently got a new graphics card. One that would let me play other competitive games. The first game I purchased was Overwatch. And I now fully understand why Minecraft will never be an esport, the minecraft PvP community is dying. Minecraft was never a game that was meant to be competitive therefore it's full of issues. It's just way too simple with an extremely low skill cap. The developers also really don't give a fuck about Minecraft PvP, considering they pushed out updates the PvP community was strongly against.

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Msging wrote

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Kohi was pretty good competition wouldn't you say?

Anyway people need to stop looking at all the negatives and actually appreciate that Badlion is by far the strongest competitive server and has been for several years. It's in a depression but when S15 etc launches there I wouldn't be surprised to see Badlion hitting 5k players regularly. As Magiclz said I personally love the fact Ultra came out despite the stupid drama. Badlion hasn't had proper competition since Kohi and this is the reason it entered the slump in the first place.

Badlion's not gonna hit 5k players again (1 region) , and there's competition now. I don't see a recovery in any near future.

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This game's not competitive enough to take it anywhere seriously

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 06:03 AM

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Ryan, I agree with with you somewhat. Badlion is in a poor state at the moment and is struggling. Though being optimistic season 15 and UHC 6.0 are coming out in the near future. Hopefully these will add back to Badlion, countering the dead arena season and hopefully bringing back UHC players from Ultra.

There is a current trend of hating on Badlion and calling out every little issue that the server has, usually the development team are aware. This leads to propaganda being created to purely spite Badlion, and that really does show how immature some people are.

People who also say Ultra is going to die are also wrong, Ultra is a well established server already even though it's in BETA. Those hoping for the death of ultra are also not doing Badlion any favors. To be blunt Badlion has never had proper competition on the competitive scene (so this doesn't include hypixel, mineplex etc, etc) besides Kohi which was eventually bought by Badlion. This issue of never having competition hasn't helped Badlion as they've been able to keep a player base and not had threats of their players being taken away. The fact Ultra exists is actually very good as it means that Badlion has to keep rolling out updates to keep its player base, something it didn't realize until too late will Ultra. Though now it is bringing out new things and listening to the community a lot more.

From what I've said it sounds like i'm very against Badlion, though that is not at all the case and in order to create a good argument you can't have full biased. Your point on Badlion becoming an E-sport I agree with, it will never become a main stage e-sport like Rocket League of CS-GO but I am very confident that it will be able to become a moderately big e-sport. Though a big issue is that a lot of players are very young and to be honest too young to compete at a LAN event. Badlion though has made great leaps forward with big money cash prizes and cash leagues and tournaments seem to be the future, as they should be for a successful e-sport.

To conclude I think Badlion has a prosperous future and is certainly coming out of a rough time at the moment and when s15 drops I feel a lot of players will be extremely happy to play again and to play the game competitively. Don't lose faith just yet as there is a lot to come and it can only re-grow from here

Don't think the players being young is a big problem look at clash royale esport is being developped and there are tons of young players

Honestly though having 14 year olds e-sports isn't great for your reputation that they're the best players you have

Also I'm pretty sure to go to a lan event you have to be 16 +

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 09:45 AM

Msging wrote

Magiclz wrote...

Kohi was pretty good competition wouldn't you say?

Anyway people need to stop looking at all the negatives and actually appreciate that Badlion is by far the strongest competitive server and has been for several years. It's in a depression but when S15 etc launches there I wouldn't be surprised to see Badlion hitting 5k players regularly. As Magiclz said I personally love the fact Ultra came out despite the stupid drama. Badlion hasn't had proper competition since Kohi and this is the reason it entered the slump in the first place.

oc.tc was 10000000x as competitive

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JakePaulFan1 wrote

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oc.tc was 10000000x as competitive

It had more competitive gamemodes but although I'm not that informed as to that whole scene from what I've heard if wasn't too stable hence why I said the "strongest."

If you're talking about pocket edition I have no idea as to what's going on there

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Msging wrote

JakePaulFan1 wrote...

It had more competitive gamemodes but although I'm not that informed as to that whole scene from what I've heard if wasn't too stable hence why I said the "strongest."

If you're talking about pocket edition I have no idea as to what's going on there

For around 3 years they hosted tournaments every few months that each had around 64-100 teams and each team had around 20 players. Also that whole time period they would get around 1500-2000 players online at peak times

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 12:59 PM

JakePaulFan1 wrote

Msging wrote...

For around 3 years they hosted tournaments every few months that each had around 64-100 teams and each team had around 20 players. Also that whole time period they would get around 1500-2000 players online at peak times

Which years? 2010/11?

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 01:37 PM

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Grats on that comment on Alex's video xddd

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 02:12 PM

Msging wrote

JakePaulFan1 wrote...

Which years? 2010/11?

2014/2015

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 02:17 PM

Recoovery wrote

Msging wrote...

2014/2015

Yeah a few years ago

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Posted on 30 July 2017 - 02:21 PM

xSah wrote

UVpickles wrote...

I'm talking about a known competitive game. Such as overwatch cs rocket league, LoL, etc people know that it is a competitive game. People think minecraft is a building game for 9 year olds.

and this is the biggest reason why minecraft will never become a mainstream e-sport, not because it has bugs, young playerbase or toxic community none of that even matters, what matters is how the rest take a look at it and while cs:go was also looked down on as an esport when it was just starting, it wasnt hated by other gamers/people playing other games, it was hated by the mainstream media at that time and the overall "average human" perspective, the average person didnt even know games existed and now they know of minecraft as a 9 year old game, csgo as a game with guns and idk gta as something their teenager spends 10 hours per day on
My point is that other gaming communities don't look at minecraft as an e-sport and thats what hurts it the most, until you can change cs:go, dota 2 and LoL community's perspective of this game I don't see it ever becoming big as those games

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