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The new "Archer."

KingBooger wrote

Msging wrote...


i can do whatever the fuck i want

i havent played a game of ranked archer since s11 so no fucks given

I don't understand why you would comment on this then with a completely uninformed opinion which helps nobody.
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Msging wrote

KingBooger wrote...


I don't understand why you would comment on this then with a completely uninformed opinion which helps nobody.

get posts and i like the s14 archer better so yuh
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KingBooger wrote

Msging wrote...


get posts and i like the s14 archer better so yuh

If you like the S14 archer better why did you -1 then?
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Msging wrote

Jamison5 wrote...


Okay that's helpful but there's no comparison between S14 and S15 so which one do you prefer?


Season 14 was the worst. Season 15 is better in every way.
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Msging wrote

KingBooger wrote...


If you like the S14 archer better why did you -1 then?

idk if u want ill +1
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Not even going to play archer this season so idk +1
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The only problem with the current archer I see is the random damage. Last season there were many problems like people who short range or bow boost, those are all fixed now. Archer is meant to be long range and if it is taking too long as kikzo said you can just get closer to the ravine thingy. Being repetitive is kinda a dead statement. Any thing you do over and over again is repetitive its not the kits fault what other problem do you have with this kit?
Imo this is perfect
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Radioactivebeans wrote

Second reply
The only problem with the current archer I see is the random damage. Last season there were many problems like people who short range or bow boost, those are all fixed now. Archer is meant to be long range and if it is taking too long as kikzo said you can just get closer to the ravine thingy. Being repetitive is kinda a dead statement. Any thing you do over and over again is repetitive its not the kits fault what other problem do you have with this kit?
Imo this is perfect

I feel like was it Anthony? Don't hold me to that anyway they described it perfectly, "The new archer is like a doging simulator." I don't think a kit can be right if people litterally log out because they got so bored playing it. I agree maybe if they fixed damage it would solve it but it takes 3 shots and you've lost 10 ELO to a 1400 which took you 25 minutes to get.
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Msging wrote

Radioactivebeans wrote...


I feel like was it Anthony? Don't hold me to that anyway they described it perfectly, "The new archer is like a doging simulator." I don't think a kit can be right if people litterally log out because they got so bored playing it. I agree maybe if they fixed damage it would solve it but it takes 3 shots and you've lost 10 ELO to a 1400 which took you 25 minutes to get.

Im quite sure it was raven and Jhe called it a dodging simulator because back then it had speed 2 which they changed. 3 shots? Unlikely but back then it was 4 shots anyways
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Msging wrote

Kikzo wrote...


I feel the opposite, I feel like because of the new damage system there is much more room for players who aren't as good to beat you, especially if you try force short range

nah, I believe I have 5 losses in more than 100 Archer matches and all losses were against really good players, 1 or 2 were due to server lag, but no bad people killed me due to luck thats not right
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Kikzo wrote

The new Archer is perfect, I don't want to be rude at all Msging but you're the last person that has the right to complain about the Archer kit, because literally all you did was bow boost in S14. You can easily avoid short range by going to the end of the map and if that's still not far enough for you, you're simply not good. I CAN have 15 minute fights in each of the 3 maps and I'm not the best dodger, but if I don't want the match to last forever I can fix it by going closer to the ravine thingy.
The current Archer is exactly how "Archer" should be, long range, dodging based. If that's too boring for anyone you still have UHC which is a quicker version of archer. The random damage thingy is quite stupid but that can easily be fixed.

Yes, yes, yes! I really like the new archer too, as it doesn't allow people to literally kill its purpose, long ranged fights.
However, I would actually reduce the gap in the middle by a few blocks, just to make shortrange actually do-able if both players want to, or to be able to kill someone in case all they're doing is dodge arrows, without being scared to either fall or get stuck in some blocks behind you.

I would enjoy s14 maps too, though, as long as bow-boosting gets disabled and enderpearls get reduced to 1 or none.
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Msging wrote

Kikzo wrote...


That's fine but I got to diamond 5/4 long ranging getting it out there. Anyway the point is it will get extremely boring and nobody will play it. I'm trying to create a way for it to be long range but making it so people can close out a fight. The archer is extremely repetitive and not fun to play. It is meant to be a long range kit I completely agree but having to play a 20 minute match to gain 5 ELO isn't at all how it should be imo. It's extremely hard to force even mid range on the new maps and there's basically only 1 map you can do that on.


I agree, some matches take too long even against some 1400s. Perhaps they could make these maps a bit smaller? So that people can't really get out of range and won't be able to force 15mins fights
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Not a fan of s15 archer since average players can camp the corner when they are losing and dodge for 15 minutes.

Since people want archer to be long range so badly, just keep it like s14 archer and disable bow boosting, but my most preferred archer version will always be kohi's
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https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/026fcfe7-3105-4cf2-830c-e24f9472c2ff
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Jamison5 wrote

It's definitely not 90% luck. It takes 4 hits at least 90% of the time. I think I've seen only 5 times or so where it took 3 hits, and about the same for 5 hits.

Fighting good players does not take too long. I haven't had any matches take 15 minutes. The longest was 12 minutes, only because Legendcaleb wasn't even shooting, just stalling.
sorry mate I kept freezing and u wouldn't fuck off x)
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+1 s15 archer is dumb
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Is it still speed 2 I haven't played in a while
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ravenatorman wrote

Is it still speed 2 I haven't played in a while

It's speed 1 now
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Season 15 kit is bad.
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