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Posted on 24 February 2018 - 06:49 AM
Radioactivebeans wrote
Shiftehh wrote...
funny
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Posted on 26 February 2018 - 10:33 PM
xDPosted on 27 February 2018 - 02:02 PM
I don't like the guns dudePosted on 04 March 2018 - 07:10 AM
all the quote and the links and the long text …Posted on 04 March 2018 - 01:14 PM
guys it’s NOT the right time to talk about gun controlPosted on 04 March 2018 - 01:27 PM
It’s all well and good being able to defend yourself with guns but if you take the weapon out the equation it stops the problem. Australia figured that one out after their mass shooting and that worked out pretty well for them.The issue is it would be a logistical nightmare to remove the high number of firearms in the US, possible in Australia which had to get rid of fewer weapons.
The other issue is that the second amendment is ingrained into the US Cluture. This idea of defending yourself against a tyrannical government is strong amongst Americans.
Posted on 04 March 2018 - 01:28 PM
It’s all well and good being able to defend yourself with guns but if you take the weapon out the equation it stops the problem. Australia figured that one out after their mass shooting and that worked out pretty well for them.The issue is it would be a logistical nightmare to remove the high number of firearms in the US, possible in Australia which had to get rid of fewer weapons.
The other issue is that the second amendment is ingrained into the US Culture. This idea of defending yourself against a tyrannical government is strong amongst Americans.
Posted on 04 March 2018 - 02:16 PM
I tend to stay away from political arguments but this is a topic that should not be ignored.As an American student I find myself fearing for my life at the threat of a shooting at my school, as a-lot of students do. There are many shootings outside of the school atmosphere as well, and many of those people have guns that they shouldn't have.
I personally do not have a problem for having guns for defense, like a pistol or a shotgun, but having something far from that is unnecessary.
Last edited on 05 March 2018 - 05:14 AM by Radioactivebeans
Jinxful wrote
It’s all well and good being able to defend yourself with guns but if you take the weapon out the equation it stops the problem. Australia figured that one out after their mass shooting and that worked out pretty well for them.
The issue is it would be a logistical nightmare to remove the high number of firearms in the US, possible in Australia which had to get rid of fewer weapons.
The other issue is that the second amendment is ingrained into the US Culture. This idea of defending yourself against a tyrannical government is strong amongst Americans.
The issue is it would be a logistical nightmare to remove the high number of firearms in the US, possible in Australia which had to get rid of fewer weapons.
The other issue is that the second amendment is ingrained into the US Culture. This idea of defending yourself against a tyrannical government is strong amongst Americans.
Mass shootings aren’t a good mesurement when comparing gun violence. The australian buy back program barely had any affect on the actual homicide rate. If you look at the graph you can see that it was on the decrease even before the buy back program and new zeland also had a similar decrease even though they didnt have a buy back program. Also in northern countries mass shootings occur more despite the fact that there are strict gun laws. Taking the guns away from law abiding citizens will not stop anything
Posted on 04 March 2018 - 03:13 PM
CorFTL wrote
I tend to stay away from political arguments but this is a topic that should not be ignored.
As an American student I find myself fearing for my life at the threat of a shooting at my school, as a-lot of students do. There are many shootings outside of the school atmosphere as well, and many of those people have guns that they shouldn't have.
I personally do not have a problem for having guns for defense, like a pistol or a shotgun, but having something far from that is unnecessary.
As an American student I find myself fearing for my life at the threat of a shooting at my school, as a-lot of students do. There are many shootings outside of the school atmosphere as well, and many of those people have guns that they shouldn't have.
I personally do not have a problem for having guns for defense, like a pistol or a shotgun, but having something far from that is unnecessary.
Noone is saying school shootings are okay they definetly aren’t but both sides offer different solutions to solve this problem. There is no evidence to suggest that stricter gun laws will do any good. By pistols I assume you mean handguns? Which cause %80 of gun homicides and almost all of them are semi-automatic like AR-15s
Last edited on 05 March 2018 - 09:17 PM by UVpickles
We should focus on helping the individuals who are mentally ill, and have serious issues, rather than focus on gun control in my opinion. We tend to put the blame on guns when someone goes rouge and commits some horrible crime, but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who commit these crimes have serious mental issues that were usually not addressed properly. If the government was more open to helping solve these issues, then gun related crimes (including suicides) will fall dramatically.However, I'm also in support of having a more extensive background check to prove that you are a law abiding citizen, and that you don't have any serious psychological issues. Currently, the system allows for too many people to slip through the cracks, which is partly why this has become such a serious issue.
Also, let's take a look at the economic impact of an open gun market in the United States. The production and distribution of firearms has resulted in 301,123 jobs being created throughout the US, which has generated $15,183,424,700 in wages annually. The gun industry has some obvious benefits because it gets people to work. Since there are people being employed with decently average pays, the gun industry promotes many American families to move into the middle class (if they weren't there before), which then promotes individuals to spend more on the economy (because they have more money to spend), which also benefits cooperate America and small business throughout the US. In the civilian economy, the gun industry also generates $51,251,443,900 GDP, which doubtingly has positive impacts throughout the US. On top of that, the gun industry is one of the few industries in the US that actually thrives domestically. Compare this to the majority of production based industries, which often base their production operations in foreign countries because labor is cheap, and you see why the gun industry is a uniquely American industry that promotes economic growth throughout the nation. One of the main reasons the US is the main producer of guns for the civilian economy is because the US has very little in terms of government regulation regarding guns. If we were to impose stricter gun limitations, then this industry will either die, or move to a foreign country because the labor will be cheaper with similar regulations. The lack of regulations is the main factor as to why the gun industry is so large and beneficial through the US, and we would be putting the economy, and overall prosperity of the population, in a worse situation than it currently is if we imposed stricter limitations. When unemployment is higher, more people become depressed on average, and we may actually see an increase in gun violence/suicides because there will be more mentally ill.
(economic statistics)
Posted on 06 March 2018 - 01:34 PM
Do you fatPosted on 07 March 2018 - 07:23 AM
UVpickles wrote
We should focus on helping the individuals who are mentally ill, and have serious issues, rather than focus on gun control in my opinion. We tend to put the blame on guns when someone goes rouge and commits some horrible crime, but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who commit these crimes have serious mental issues that were usually not addressed properly. If the government was more open to helping solve these issues, then gun related crimes (including suicides) will fall dramatically.
However, I'm also in support of having a more extensive background check to prove that you are a law abiding citizen, and that you don't have any serious psychological issues. Currently, the system allows for too many people to slip through the cracks, which is partly why this has become such a serious issue.
Also, let's take a look at the economic impact of an open gun market in the United States. The production and distribution of firearms has resulted in 301,123 jobs being created throughout the US, which has generated $15,183,424,700 in wages annually. The gun industry has some obvious benefits because it gets people to work. Since there are people being employed with decently average pays, the gun industry promotes many American families to move into the middle class (if they weren't there before), which then promotes individuals to spend more on the economy (because they have more money to spend), which also benefits cooperate America and small business throughout the US. In the civilian economy, the gun industry also generates $51,251,443,900 GDP, which doubtingly has positive impacts throughout the US. On top of that, the gun industry is one of the few industries in the US that actually thrives domestically. Compare this to the majority of production based industries, which often base their production operations in foreign countries because labor is cheap, and you see why the gun industry is a uniquely American industry that promotes economic growth throughout the nation. One of the main reasons the US is the main producer of guns for the civilian economy is because the US has very little in terms of government regulation regarding guns. If we were to impose stricter gun limitations, then this industry will either die, or move to a foreign country because the labor will be cheaper with similar regulations. The lack of regulations is the main factor as to why the gun industry is so large and beneficial through the US, and we would be putting the economy, and overall prosperity of the population, in a worse situation than it currently is if we imposed stricter limitations. When unemployment is higher, more people become depressed on average, and we may actually see an increase in gun violence/suicides because there will be more mentally ill.
(economic statistics)
However, I'm also in support of having a more extensive background check to prove that you are a law abiding citizen, and that you don't have any serious psychological issues. Currently, the system allows for too many people to slip through the cracks, which is partly why this has become such a serious issue.
Also, let's take a look at the economic impact of an open gun market in the United States. The production and distribution of firearms has resulted in 301,123 jobs being created throughout the US, which has generated $15,183,424,700 in wages annually. The gun industry has some obvious benefits because it gets people to work. Since there are people being employed with decently average pays, the gun industry promotes many American families to move into the middle class (if they weren't there before), which then promotes individuals to spend more on the economy (because they have more money to spend), which also benefits cooperate America and small business throughout the US. In the civilian economy, the gun industry also generates $51,251,443,900 GDP, which doubtingly has positive impacts throughout the US. On top of that, the gun industry is one of the few industries in the US that actually thrives domestically. Compare this to the majority of production based industries, which often base their production operations in foreign countries because labor is cheap, and you see why the gun industry is a uniquely American industry that promotes economic growth throughout the nation. One of the main reasons the US is the main producer of guns for the civilian economy is because the US has very little in terms of government regulation regarding guns. If we were to impose stricter gun limitations, then this industry will either die, or move to a foreign country because the labor will be cheaper with similar regulations. The lack of regulations is the main factor as to why the gun industry is so large and beneficial through the US, and we would be putting the economy, and overall prosperity of the population, in a worse situation than it currently is if we imposed stricter limitations. When unemployment is higher, more people become depressed on average, and we may actually see an increase in gun violence/suicides because there will be more mentally ill.
(economic statistics)
I don’t think economic impact matters too much here, it is about basic human rights. Sure guns do boost the economic growth but so did slavery so that really isn’t a determining factor
Posted on 07 March 2018 - 09:53 AM
Radioactivebeans wrote
UVpickles wrote...
I don’t think economic impact matters too much here, it is about basic human rights. Sure guns do boost the economic growth but so did slavery so that really isn’t a determining factor
Posted on 08 March 2018 - 03:53 AM
Tbf @Radioactivebeans I’m pretty disappointed that you believe having guns are a good ideaPosted on 08 March 2018 - 04:20 AM
Jinxful wrote
Tbf @Radioactivebeans I’m pretty disappointed that you believe having guns are a good idea
I'm disappointed that you disregarded every argument I made and came to a conclusion without making any decent points yourself
Last edited on 08 March 2018 - 12:44 PM by Jinxful
Radioactivebeans wrote
Jinxful wrote...
I'm disappointed that you disregarded every argument I made and came to a conclusion without making any decent points yourself
Last edited on 08 March 2018 - 02:38 PM by Radioactivebeans
Jinxful wrote
Radioactivebeans wrote...
Sadly it’s not that simple. If its common sense you can explain it. This is a weak argument frequently used by pro gun control people. You can’t make enormous decisions by ignoring data and using common sense instead. There is 0 statisical evidence to show that removing the second amendment or having stricter gun laws in the US would solve the problem. States with strictest gun laws in the US also have the highest gun crime rates. Despite the fact that the US has the most amount of guns in the world they only rank 28th in gun homicides. If you want to talk about mass shootings which is a very poor way of defining gun crime the US still has a lower rate compared to countries like Norway Finland and Switzerland which have strict gun laws. In the US guns have 500.000 to 3 million defensive uses each year and only around 13.000 people die by gun homicide. It’s not rocket science but it’s not as simple as you said either, it’s very important to look at statistics and facts before ripping peoples rights to protect themselves away.
Posted on 08 March 2018 - 02:51 PM
no gun cuntrol. I <3 kill peapal. :LPosted on 08 March 2018 - 02:59 PM
Shiftehh wrote
no gun cuntrol. I <3 kill peapal. :L
If you don’t have anything meaningful to say can you not post here this is not the first time you doing this