DaBakerMC wrote

BeFour6 wrote...

The bow community is dead because badlion killed it. By removing the fun kits such as UHC and Iron, most of the NA bow community dropped the game because it is boring to just dodge arrows all day. As someone who's highest bow kit EVER has never been above 1450, I think you have no right in saying that archer should be the only bow kit because the other kits are the same. Sweetheart, archer is probably the kit out of all of them that SHOULD be deleted. Archer is a 4 hit kit which leaves very little margin for error. UHC is a kit where you can test different play styles. I'd bother explaining to you, but you are one of those ignorant players speaking for a community that you are not part of.

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Posted on 09 March 2018 - 10:46 AM

Radioactivebeans wrote

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1. The whole point is to make it so the best player is top global not the player that plays the most. This new Global system does that (mostly).

2. How is gapple more aim based than nodebuff? like what

3. You say nodebuff is only aiming, knowing how to pot and "some pvp mechanics that people can learn easily" but tell me how Gapple is any different except for the fact that you don't have to be good at potting so if anything gapple is much easier. Yes in gapple you have to worry about armor but its really not that hard to put armor on fast, and how is timing gapples not considered "some pvp mechanics that people can learn easily" Timing gapples is so much easier than potting and having to worry about quickdropping. Debuff does indeed take more skill but guess what, most people don't like it, no one plays it, that's why it was so insanely dead and its a no longer relevant game mode. My point? nodebuff is the best representation of speed 2 pvp skill we will get.

4. For build uhc you said it represents build, sg, and diamond rod. I agree they should add sg back but, diamond rod is just good rod practice, it shouldn't count for global.

5. For archer, well archer is an already unpopular gamemode so adding 2 more bow kits would just spread to bow players out even more. Also since uhc and archer are both just pure bow why do we need both, I know that uhc has gapples but how does that make it different in terms of skills needed to be good at it. Archer tests bow skill. Why do we need 3 kits to test bow skill?

6. also adding diamond back would add a kit that requires both bow and melee skill.

So why do we need to add back all of the extra kits that almost no one enjoys playing, and therefore don't play, that test the same skills as the kits that already count for global, that will just spread players to more kits making already dead kits even more dead, and will again make the player that plays the most get top global and not the best player?

UHC and Archer are completely different ladders. It is a lot easier to dodge in Archer due to the Speed effect.

Dam speed makes so much of a difference, you can be 2500 in archer but a 1700 in uhc!

Yes they are completely 2 different ladders, I am one of the best in uhc but no where near close in archer

Exactly. Even though archer can have all ranges in it, its mostly just long range, and by having speed it makes people hard to hit even in small ranges. Yet in UHC fights start at long range, but end up at ranges below 10-25 blocks and there is even a sword in the kit so it adds a twist to the kit itself. In iron its really nothing to explain. I rarely see anyone fighting at a range of 25 blocks or so. Its a kit that takes patience and a lot more dodging skill.

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