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Gcheat and Badlion
Hello Badlion Staff Team,

As the player base of your server, we deserve to know more about Gcheat. We are losing faith in the reliability of this anticheat. We need proof that Djthread wasn't cheating. We need answers instead of being told this is some giant secret. As the players, this makes it scary to play in fear of being false banned. I am scarred to click where it would give me 2 clicks.

Also, the autoclick check needs to be changed so butterfly clicking is allowed. Butterfly clicking is something that you can do on EVERY SINGLE MOUSE. It isn't a glitch, and it isn't a hack. It is a technique to get two clicks out of one without manipulating any hardware or software. We should be allowed to Butterfly Click.

I hope the Badlion Administration can come forward and address these issues and the community's faith in Gcheat can be restored. This community deserves to know, and this cannot be kept behind closed doors.

Thank you,
SonicHd13
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The badlion gheat system is 99.9999% accurate…
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another one of stimpys and asianwiz threads incoming
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I don't agree with allowing butterfly clicking. People should be using one finger. What if people started using 3 fingers to click one mouse button? Becomes cringy and stupid real fast.
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I don't agree with allowing butterfly clicking. People should be using one finger. What if people started using 3 fingers to click one mouse button? Becomes cringy and stupid real fast.

What do you mean? How does how "cringy" you perceive the technique change the legitimacy of it?
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I don't agree with allowing butterfly clicking. People should be using one finger. What if people started using 3 fingers to click one mouse button? Becomes cringy and stupid real fast.


It's hard af to use 3 fingers, trust me I've tried it.
Plus, it takes skill. This is like saying that you should ban jitter clicking because people can learn to do it faster.
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Gcheat is not 99.9% accurate. I believe that it is accurate, possibly 98%, but that isn't good enough.
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SonicHD13 wrote

Gcheat is not 99.9% accurate. I believe that it is accurate, possibly 98%, but that isn't good enough.


Find something better then
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SmellyPenguin wrote

I don't agree with allowing butterfly clicking. People should be using one finger. What if people started using 3 fingers to click one mouse button? Becomes cringy and stupid real fast.

What if people grew a third hand and started clicking with that? Just stop it with the what ifs. If people can change their technique and be better at pvp, why is badlion discouraging it. Admit that the check that is banning for it is bad and redo it. Sometimes things just don't work out, and Archy and Gberry are going to have to fix this. Butterfly clicking is what people want to do. It is better for your arm and better for Pvp.
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Saimo wrote

SonicHD13 wrote...



Find something better then

Did I say there was something better? Drop the salt on the doormat for this thread bud. If Badlion wants to be the future for the competitive PvP world, Gcheat needs to be flawless, 99.99% perfect. I hope the client-sided anti-cheat is coming along well.
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SonicHD13 wrote

Saimo wrote...


Did I say there was something better? Drop the salt on the doormat for this thread bud. If Badlion wants to be the future for the competitive PvP world, Gcheat needs to be flawless, 99.99% perfect. I hope the client-sided anti-cheat is coming along well.

No anti cheat ever will be flawless
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FRX wrote

SonicHD13 wrote...


No anti cheat ever will be flawless

With machine learning and a Client sided anti-cheat it is entirely possible.
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It's not easy as code it to be flawless. You are also underestimating the acurracy of gcheat.
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ty_rex222 wrote

It's not easy as code it to be flawless. You are also underestimating the acurracy of gcheat.

There is no statistic for false bans, mainly because badlion doesn't admit they're wrong. They need to prove that this anti-cheat is flawless to us. I know I am not the only one who has lost faith in this anti-cheat.
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Ny_ wrote

SmellyPenguin wrote...


What do you mean? How does how "cringy" you perceive the technique change the legitimacy of it?


You misunderstood my argument. That is my personal take on it. Allowing butterfly clicking basically allows clicking with two mice, having a friend click on one (or a trackpad) and having someone click on another. The thing is that some people may already be doing this and say that they're just jitterclicking, but we will never know. If we allowed butterfly clicking then the extent at which people would do this or use normal double click macros would increase.
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SonicHD13 wrote


There is no statistic for false bans, mainly because badlion doesn't admit they're wrong. They need to prove that this anti-cheat is flawless to us. I know I am not the only one who has lost faith in this anti-cheat.


You know that judgment day (4 if I'm not wrong) got canceled because there were gonna be false bans?
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Saimo wrote

SonicHD13 wrote...



You know that judgment day (4 if I'm not wrong) got canceled because there were gonna be false bans?

Yes, I did know that. Kohi players will come to Badlion and get banned almost instantly, and they are phenominal Pvp'ers. Please explain this, other then the classic answer "Denied, you were cheating". (Refrencing the appeals)
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SmellyPenguin wrote

Ny_ wrote...



You misunderstood my argument. That is my personal take on it. Allowing butterfly clicking basically allows clicking with two mice, having a friend click on one (or a trackpad) and having someone click on another. The thing is that some people may already be doing this and say that they're just jitterclicking, but we will never know. If we allowed butterfly clicking then the extent at which people would do this or use normal double click macros would increase.

There must be some way the Gberry or Archybot could crate a check that allows Butterfly clicking and not allow a double click macro. Again, hopefully the client side anticheat is coming soon.
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