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Badlion's elo system with ALTS
People that alt(and drain people purposely) ruin the WHOLE elo system. I will explain why now, If an alt drains me 100 elo and other 3 people 100 elo, then that means that we have less elo, and because of that me and that other 3 people are gonna get more elo when we beat a certain guy since our elo is lower then what it was, and the guy that we beat is gonna have a lower elo so he will get more elo from other people and so-on. now this happens because the guy that alts(for the purpose of this lets say he is the most skilled person on a 1400 elo account) gets more elo so a share of the elo pool goes to him again, so if he has a 1000 alts and he plays in all of them that will mean that his alts will be SUPER high elo but the people below him will start at 1900 (for build that is REALLY low). that is why I personaly think that altig (for draining purposes) should be disallowed, it just ruins the whole elo system.
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forgot to mention that every 100 alts (assuming that badlion has an overall 6000 unique players that have ever played on the server in a specific season, and also that every alt gets from 1400 to 2k) make every single person (on average) to lose 1 elo. and there are way more then 100 alts right now, so just think about it.
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Dar_krust wrote

forgot to mention that every 100 alts (assuming that badlion has an overall 6000 unique players that have ever played on the server in a specific season, and also that every alt gets from 1400 to 2k) make every single person (on average) to lose 1 elo. and there are way more then 100 alts right now, so just think about it.

pretty sure 6k players have been online at the same time every couple of days
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Eh no
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Do you know a single person who is collecting hundreds of alts, getting them up to 2k then leaving them just to ruin the server?
Do you know 1k
not an issue
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H2Q wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


pretty sure 6k players have been online at the same time every couple of days

This was a way to demonstrate how it effects the elo system, there are way more then 100 alts aswell.
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ty_rex222 wrote

Do you know a single person who is collecting hundreds of alts, getting them up to 2k then leaving them just to ruin the server?
Do you know 1k
not an issue

Not one person, I know many people which have more then 1 alt, and in a bigger scale its an issue.
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Dar_krust wrote

ty_rex222 wrote...


Not one person, I know many people which have more then 1 alt, and in a bigger scale its an issue.

How many people do you think there are in proportion to those alts
ie
a = alts
p = people
What is a:p @darrrrrrr
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also doesnt matter if they get 2k, its almost elo manipulation in my eyes since some people that dont deserve elo gain elo and some people lose elo when they dont deserve it, there is no reason a guy should drop elo because a guy feels like alting and draining people, and besides that it somewhat ruins the whole elo system.
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ty_rex222 wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


How many people do you think there are in proportion to those alts
ie
a = alts
p = people
What is a:p @darrrrrrr

arround 0.5/1 i'd say (in general, people with higher elos have more alts it seems and that is what makes the difference.)
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Dar_krust wrote

ty_rex222 wrote...


arround 0.5/1 i'd say (in general, people with higher elos have more alts it seems and that is what makes the difference.)

so 1:2 ?
No
There is always the same amount of elo in the system

My guess is about

1:40
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ty_rex222 wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


so 1:2 ?
No
There is always the same amount of elo in the system

My guess is about

1:40

Dont forget that ANY shared account adds up to here, elo manipulation aswell, Bans, everything, so people that alt and drain make it worse.
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ty_rex222 wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


so 1:2 ?
No
There is always the same amount of elo in the system

My guess is about

1:40

damn go to sleep its late
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Basicly like smurfing in Cs go, just that here it has less effect because its a 1v1 and not 5v5.
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Dar_krust wrote

ty_rex222 wrote...


Dont forget that ANY shared account adds up to here, elo manipulation aswell, Bans, everything, so people that alt and drain make it worse.

so 1:38 ?
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When people hack the elo system is effected too, Basicly anything that is UNFAIR changes the elo system, so the least you can do is make all of them unfair (elo manipulating and hacking are not allowed so why should alting be? you ban people because it ruins the server when someone cheats and people lose elo, its basicly the same with alting, the whole point is to have a competition and if a guy just participates 1000 times it ruins the competition.)
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ty_rex222 wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


so 1:38 ?

So why ban hackers? the whole point is to make it competitve. atleast that is how i see it.
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if you cant make alting disallowed then people lose elo for no reason (just like with hackers) so imo it should be disallowed.
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Dar_krust wrote

if you cant make alting disallowed then people lose elo for no reason (just like with hackers) so imo it should be disallowed.

Do you think hackers screw up elo?
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ty_rex222 wrote

Dar_krust wrote...


Do you think hackers screw up elo?

Obviously dont you get mad when you lose to a hacker? lmao
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