Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 09:17 AM by MasterGberry
So. I have recently been reading a lot more complaints online than the typical ones I see. I am going to ask all staff to stay 100% clear of this thread, and if I find any staff members targeting people here for what they say about certain people or the staff team as a whole your ass is mine.So the purpose of this thread is for Archybot and myself to get some opinions from old players and from new players on the state of our staff team. Badlion tries to make everything it can the best it can. We feel that the staff team has transformed a lot over the past three years. It is in our best interest to gather some community feedback about what the community things about the staff team.
THINGS I DO NOT WANT TO SEE IN THIS THREAD:
- Straight up trash talking
- "They don't do their job", etc
- One line responses with no helpful feedback
An Example of what I do want to see:
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I joined Badlion June 2013
What I am looking for is well thought out criticism of the staff team as a whole so that we can do some internal reviews and try to improve the quality of the staff team. Once again I am looking for well thought out responses and I would appreciate it if you say how long you have been playing Badlion for too. Try avoid calling out particular staff members and keep it general. I will delete any bad/trashy responses.
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 09:31 AM
The staff team does a good job at quickly muting people that need to be muted in global chat, although there have been faulty mutes in the past (not going to get into it) Now, i think that staff definetley have a right to enjoy badlion and play all they want but it gets to a point where there are staff who straight up dont look at theyre chat, helping people should be prioratized over elo, I think badlion should remind theyre staff that helping is a priorityI joined badlion 2013
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 09:39 AM by Deadlyhitman
Some of the staff joins the server, plays without moderating, and leaves. It's gotten to the point where people spam "mods tp camper" a multitude of times and rarely any action is taken toward the camper. I'm in no way saying that this is the staff team in it's entirety and I understand wanting to play rather than watch others play but I find it difficult to understand why people apply or don't step down if being staff isn't what they thought it would be. Also, i've read the rules and understand them but sometimes the staff can be WAY too harsh in chat. If you say one slight bit of shit talk it's a mute. It's a competetive server, trash talking is all part of competition. Just give players slack or even warnings before muting (especially when the mutes start to add up) and I think that would be a pretty good way to deal with it.Starting playing sometime in 2014(?) I think or 2013
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 01:02 PM by Legendcaleb
I personally feel some (not all) of the staff team use their position for their own benefit. What I mean is, they ban/mute when it is most convenient for them and rarely because a player needs help.Like I said some of the staff team is very good at their job and I want to point out Lukewilliams specifically, but others aren't.
I joined September 2014
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 12:14 PM by reb_hi
I think for the most part the staff is doing excellent job with the limits coming to it, usually when Im being a naughty naughty boy in chat I get warned not to continue and I dont understand people complaining about being muted when the rules are clear to them. problem is, I think chat rules are to strict but I cant blame staff on it.ArenaPvP: problem with arenapvp is that it needs moderation 24/7, which is hard, and alot of people cant understand that people have life other than kicking xx_promineman69_pussyslayer_xx and jimmycraftletsplayHD for teaming in ffa. in eu arena I see for most of the busy hours at least 1 mod and he always responds to me when I ask so being friendly to them benefits.
on the other hand, since the kohi merge there has been sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many hackers who just dont give a fuck and here just to drain or to get #2 in build which is annoying because theres never a mod to spec them
UHC: The major problem I see with staff(idk the behind the scenes) is respawning in UHC's. I die to a hacker every 3rd or 4th game, and I provide evidence each time, problem is sometimes they wont ban the hacker until top 2 players and I just waited 45 minutes for nothing and I gained nothing out of it.
But for the most part I think people just attack staff because theyre frustrated and cant accept they were in the wrong
note I try to just give feedback about staff and I would like to see another thread about nerfing the rules possibly/ feedback on current rules
I joined in late 2014 But I played very on and off and actually quit until a few months ago
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 10:13 AM by lilsliver
I personally think some of the staff team don't really help out a lot like when someone asks a staff to tp. I also think that most of them rely on gcheat to much. Its also impossible to pm a staff member. I'm not even sure if some check reports or anything because whenever someone is blatantly hacking its takes about 20 mins for gcheat to ban them even though a mod is online.Sasha8u wrote
I joined badlion when the AU servers were made
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 09:48 AM
I like the staff team, but I just think most of them are very lazy. For example: in Arena PvP, i never see more than 1 or 2 mods so it is hard for them to catch as many "cheaters' and as well in UHC there is like 1 host and maybe 1 mod a game when there are 100+ hosts, and there are many "cheaters" in UHC's too. So, I just think that there should be around 3 or 4 mods on at a time for Arena and about 3 or 4 for UHC as well.I have played on Badlion since beginning of 2015
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 09:54 AM
I agree with Legendcaleb when he says 'some of the staff team ban/mute when it is most convenient for them and rarely because a player needs help.' It is only the trial moderators who seem to be eager to help the players however once they receive their rank, they seem like they have nothing to prove and only have to do nothing wrong.This is only the Arena PvP moderators however as I am incredibly impressed with the UHC staff team with both their dedication to hosting but also their way of dealing with chat and people that need help, in particular as a EU player I'd like to highlight RogueMarie1, IEllieI and PixelMangos who have been amazing hosts!
Started playing Badlion in 2014
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:04 AM
Everything i say here is not to offend anyone i just know how much work as owners you do so it should be shown better!Ok I've been a member of badlion since players like Irish and JamiePlayzMc were trainee staff. In My opinion the staff team was a lot better back then. Staff these days like to act as if they run/own the server. There are many players on badlion who donate and spend hours playing on the server overall making the server what it is so even if people get banned its not nice to see staff treating us as if we are nothing. It actually makes me want to leave the network at some points.
Also MaccaTacca needs a talking to0. I Know he's an admin and all but he makes really strange choices and seems to bend the rules to suit himself at the moment. I understand that all he wants is to improve the network but by doing what he's doing its not fair and pissing a lot of old players off. He's also been back for for a few days from taking his break and he's banning people for IP ban evasion even thou they were un IP banned in the Merge.
The Staff Team is very Large and there are many UHC hosts so when i see games haven't been made because no one is available or to be honest can't be asked to host. As and ex host i remember reading that you expect people to host at least twice a week which does not happen from many of your hosts. Especially the EU ones. A lot of them play UHC's all the time but won't host and that is a problem because we sit here waiting to play a game and it is not fun playing games with 700 players and the TPS being negative. It makes me want to play on other servers.
The worst part is that when a player we are in trouble (Getting hacked on or stalked..etc) We spam the host when they don't respond simply because we spend time getting elo or playing a UHC we don't want to die to bs. SO we spam so instead of threatening to mute or ban us they would say one sec or get someone else to deal with it. But they don't Some of them think just because there staff they can disrespect us and its not ok we pay and spend time playing the last thing i expect is some disrespect from staff.
Thats all i can think off for now sorry if i offend anyone just wanna help. As Admin of another network i can see how hard your job is and i see how much work you do so it shouldn't be disgraced by a poor staff team.
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:10 AM
Note: I mainly play arena so I am not really experienced with staff on other Badlion severs.I feel like staff are better when they are trials or just became mods. I have had conversations with Trials in chat and when I message them they are always extremely nice and helpful, but that is the exact opposite of mods. When I message mods for help or asking a question I almost never get a response if they even have their messages enabled. I don't think mods should be able to have messages disabled. If they are going to moderate a server with 800+ people they need to be able to be reached. You said don't say "THEY DON'T DO THEIR JOBS!"
but tbh most of them don't. There are obviously some staff like @ThatOneCombo and @polarsbears and other that are helpful and I thank them for that. In conclusion, I think the staff team is flawed but could be fixed.
I started playing badlion around 7 - 9 months ago.
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 03:36 PM by cringiecake
Most of the staff members (minus the old and the bold lot i.e the most senior staff members) seem more robotic than they did 1-2 years ago. I don't think it's a major issue, however I just get the impression they can't or won't think for themselves. I've heard that there's just flat out mute rates like a straight 15m then scaling for saying something that's not allowed; I just think punishments should be adaptable to the situation at hand and not a permanent non-negotiable time.I do understand the server has increased in size and with that come reforms to the system however what made the staff team so likable and unique was that they handed out punishment times as they saw necessary to the exact situation and overall context of the infraction. It made them seem like people, more approachable etc.
It's possible i think this because it was drilled into me from the start that I shouldn't be robotic and I should be more flexible with my mute/ban times, I don't know, but it's my observation anyway.
oh and joined early 2014
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 10:22 AM by kieran3296
The mods doing their work pretty well and they should keep up the work some mods do their work no matter what and they are always kind <3 *cough* lukewilliams *cough* And they should keep going this way but some mods are unprofessional and they ignore you when you need their help. What they are doing is being AFK for 15 mins in ArenaPvP (Not going to say your name you already know yourself) but other than that I love all of the mods. :) but wish they looked at the reports more often. And if MaccaTacca could stop abusing his powers that would be great.I joined at the end of season8
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:18 AM
I know you said not to just say "they don't do their job" because I'm sure you've heard enough of that. But the reason people are so angry about it is because /report in most cases is basically useless, I understand there are tons of reports coming in at the same time, to many for 1 mod to look at. But most mods literally ignore every report 95% of the time. But in all honesty one of the most irritating things is false mutes. I am going to name a name here, and to most people it isn't a surprise who I am talking about (in terms of false mutes / power abusing to an extent). m0xy mutes anyone who calls him a "bow spammer" or a "lava spammer" for 'disrespect'. Calling someone a bow spammer isn't disrespectful in any way, and it's a flat out abuse of power. Now I don't have any actual proof of this but I've seen it happen on the server, so my main point is to make sure all of the staff members don't do this type of stuff in the first place. I also think that staff should be monitored more closely, maybe introduce some sort of monthly evaluation (which could be handled by you guys, or the managers etc) where someone would check over the punishments staff members have given out, the logs from chat, and determine if they are a useful part of the staff team or not. If they haven't helped in any way at all, they should be demoted. Staff members are supposed to help the server out - it's what they are there for. Again this is just an idea, as well as some of my thoughts. I really want to see that staff team do well so hopefully this helps in some way <3Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:20 AM
I feel as if staff members aren't as serious as they should be. I understand it is minecraft and meant to be fun but some staff members just straight up act like they are 11. For example, when you are hosting you should answer legit questions, not "are dank memes allowed". I also feel like a lot of favoritism goes on, multiple times i've seen two people say similar things and only one gets muted. I play a lot of uhc and I feel like some mods hold grudges after dying and would rather mute someone that killed them in a uhc then someone that didn't.I started playing badlion about a year ago
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 10:26 AM by Tjdriver
Hey all, as you can expect I am here on this topic to just discuss and express my feelings. None of what I am going to say is intended in anyway to make anyone feel bad, this is just my opinion on the matter. Yes, I know I am not particularly active on these forums or in game too much however I used to be and I have been on recently enough to be able to make a somewhat good comparison. Anyway here we go.A while back, January this year I believe I was a little big confused on an issue I had, specifically regarding chat macros. Now at the time I wasn't sure who to go to or where to go to. I joined the server however there were no staff online. I then continued to go onto their teamspeak, now this is where the problem arises for me. I sent the same exact message to 4 different members of staff all with different ranks. I got unfortunately what I wasn't wanting. They all had a different opinion on the matter. Some told me it was completely fine and the others telling me it is strictly prohibited. I guess what I'm trying to say from that short little story is that I feel as if some areas of the staff team need to be polished a bit. Everyone on the staff team regardless of how high up they are in the ranks, needs to be clear of all rules and what's allowed and what isn't. If the staff team was completely clear on all rules it would defiantly enhance the professionalism of the staff team in many different aspects. I completely understand that some members of staff may be new or even may be a bit unclear on some rules which I completely understand. What I think should be echoed to all staff is the fact that if you are ever slightly unsure on a rule to contact another staff member before giving out incorrect information to the public.
Another concern I have with the staff team specifically higher up in ranks of their contactablitity. I completely understand and appreciate that they may be busy or doing something else which I get however I do think there should be a slight alteration to the teamspeak permissions that normal members have. For example, I had an issue which had to be addressed to a manager however there was no possible way I could contact them then and there. I feel as if we could at least private message them on teamspeak that would help to resolve the contactability issue in some respects.
They were the main 2 points I have currently, If I think of anymore points later I will definitely remember to add them on to this thread. I think it's really good how you're listening to the community and want opinions on how the staff could improve. Thanks for reading!
Playing Badlion since 2013
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:33 AM
I think staff do a great job of monitoring the global chat and muting people who are saying mutable offenses. However PMs and reports are not handled as well. I've noticed many staff members (not going to say names) who have PMs off or ignore PMs when I send them. This could be improved by requiring staff to have PMs on and they can be reported by players if they are caught with PMs off. I can understand that reports are very hard for the staff to keep track of since there are so many, so maybe a better report system as its not the staff's fault. I really like the UHC staffing and hosts, I think they do a very good job with hosting but there are a few things they could do better. This includes respawns and banning hackers. I can't remember who (I think it was Ngal) made a video of dying to a team of hackers very late into a UHC and the mods not banning them. He even spectated them in 100x100 and they still weren't banned. All in all the staff team does a very good job and I appreciate it but there are some things that could be done better.I joined badlion in 2015.
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 10:36 AM by iBloe
I feel like every mod is typically good at muting players it chat, especially trial mods. After a mod complete trial I feel like they never even spec hackers because, they rely on G cheat so much. The problem I feel with G cheat is it doesn't ban immediately like mods. I've never been a mod so I really don't know this for sure. I think there should be a G chat system as well as G cheat so Mods can focus on banning/kicking more. I don't know, just an ideaJoined 2014
Last edited on 19 June 2016 - 10:56 AM by torace
I've noticed that staff keep deleting some of my posts without proper reasoning.. (Full North Korea)Also the staff on Practice (if there even ever is any online) aren't doing much but ignoring players.
A good thing I've seen is that @atop is actually doing good job.
GCheat is also working pretty well. But still, unfortunately, there's a bunch of cheaters on the leaderboards in general.
I joined Badlion mid 2014
Posted on 19 June 2016 - 10:38 AM
I myself do not try as hard on this server as others, thus I do not find as many hackers or rule breakers. Though is this case, I find almost every mod, senior or even manager (DangerousBob) has been helpful at request and has aided me with whatever I have needed. I believe the staff team do the job well but can sometimes be ignorant of non-donators. I'm a donor so I've had no problem but I have seen people with no rank not gaining help from staff. I joined badlion 2014.