Last edited on 20 July 2016 - 09:12 PM by SmellyPenguin
Feel free to leave any feedback. Please give as much info as you can give.Please give feedback on non speed kb and speed 2 kb.
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SmellyPenguin wrote
This thread will be locked until @ginie1 reopens it for feedback on the new knockback values.
Also to anyone who is unaware, ratings will be reset for a final time this Friday: https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/128077
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:13 PM
i like the kb but if ginie had anything to do with it, it sucks.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:17 PM
Really good but not as kohi's kb before the merge.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:20 PM
The kb is shit in my opinion it's really delayed especially on NA. It feels like you have speed 2 when you don't because when you try to back up people get like 4 hits on you. But again I'm SA can't really give much opinion when the server isn't out yet (which pisses me) and I get 160 ms to NA, although s12 didn't not have this bad kb people actually went foward.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:24 PM
Non speed II kb is kinda messed up.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:25 PM
I personally like the kb for all ladders. I don't know why people are complainingPosted on 19 July 2016 - 05:27 PM
Non-Speed KBAt this point in time, the knockback for non - speed is completely fine. There's nothing wrong with it. Same thing with Season 12 non-speed knockback. That's was great too.
Speed KB
In Season 13, speed knockback, is pretty unplayable. No one takes any of it, and the reason being is that it's being based off of non - speed knockback, as it was BEFORE the merge. When I'm playing, it sort of seems like the knockback is sped up, instead of being decreased for some reason.
Now, the knockback I experience during speed pvp right now is almost the exact same to the knockback of speed pvp directly after the kohi/badlion merge. This problem was somewhat fixed in the Practice server, and then fixed in the Arena PVP server when the devs made some changes. I believe those changes were stated in this update here.
https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/113863
Although these changes were claimed to be reverted, it didn't seem like it.
tl;dr - nonspeed kb is fine, speed kb seems sped up and is exactly like speed kb directly after and before the merge.
Last edited on 19 July 2016 - 05:29 PM by myhf
Jinxful wrote
Are you saying that the debuff and no debuff ladder knockback is playable? I highly beg to differ..
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:32 PM
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I know developers try their hardest to make every season as enjoyable as possible but s13 doesnt feel like badlion. The kb people take feels really different and the servers are usually quite laggy. When you leave the queue it puts you in the arena after 3-4 seconds. I know it not done yet but even when it is dont think it will feel like badlion. This is almost the only server I play and I love this server but s13 just isnt enjoyable , thats not just mr but what most of the community thinks. If you dont fix this quick and please the players badlion will start going down fast and I mean real fast. Elo system had a nice flawness to it you should probably bring it back If not dont think its gonna be a huge problem. Fix the kb make it feel like what it did in s12 (I started thinking kb doesnt exist in s13) its very less skill based now its all about quickdrops. 1 thing I really liked about s13 was the 1v1 tourney system. Never tried it but it will help the event organizers alot. Badlion should be about what makes the community pleased not what makes the server right. Some flaws have goodness in them. Overall I dont really think this season is as enjoyable as the others. I beleive in the staff team to make this better again.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:38 PM
speed knockback: *generic comment saying use prac2 kb*Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:40 PM
havent played speed, non speed terrible it feels sometimes great, but every 4,5 secs it laggs and you get insane 5 blockers and people just sometimes dont take any kb, and the worst thing is the people with bad internet (laggers) they are sooo op this season, i versed around 3 of them and its insane their hits are just something else, in my opinion laggers should have a disadventage not adventage against normal players, and in my situation i get 80 definitly the worst ping this season because its not low nor high, maybe make it so people take a bit more kb and something about laggers. but there is definitly potential, hopefully developers do the right thing :)Last edited on 19 July 2016 - 05:43 PM by Kaffeu
heres why the knockback is bad in speed ladders (and all of them, if you think that):whatever they did with the code in the spigot, they made it so you slide down after the initial hit instead of bouncing back up like kohi, thats why it feels sped up.
kohi felt so much better because, after the initial hit, people bounced up instead of sliding down. this makes it so people fly up into the air and you get get nice air combos on them.
on badlion, after the first hit, they slide down and it feels like you're playing nascar or something lmao. speedy slidy pvp. so instead of getting air combos you just make people slide across the ground. people with low ping will slide across even faster and therefore take less kb.
might be hard to tell this by playing, but if you record a video and slow it down you will see it by comparing it to kohi.
this was fixed by gberry or whoever last season when he added the 1.9 knockback patch, but apparently people complained and it was reverted to the sliding knockback.
this thread right here explained it - https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/113863 | too bad it was reverted
everyone vote for BOUNCY KNOCKBACK not SLIDY KNOCKBACK
Vote here: http://www.strawpoll.me/10787417
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:44 PM
Non Speed is fine but I greatly prefer season 12 for non speed as it seems like the kb is so little and the rod/sword don't do anything towards the kb.Speed pvp is pretty bad. It seems smooth but there is like no kb and I find it almost impossible to play kits like Vanilla since the kb allows for people to crit others out since there is no kb on yourself when jumping. Speed 2 is just extremely bad, reminded me of parapots kb a long time ago. The kb before the merge for speed is still much better.
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:44 PM
i like the kb for all laddersPosted on 19 July 2016 - 05:45 PM
What KB? On EU 90% of the times theres no kb.I really liked the old knockback, for no speed ladders it sucks and even on speed ladders.Id say for no speed ladders keep the old knockback and for speed ladders a mixture between S12 ans S13 knockback.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:46 PM
I still would like more vertical knock back so you can send your opponents flying like you could on Kohi in Speed II ladders. Other then that, the KB is great right now for Speed II. Good aim and W-tapping is rewarded finally. Good job.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:51 PM
i didnt realise how bad the speed 2 kb was until i went on another server and wasnt used to people ACTUALLY taking kb.