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Jamison5 wrote

iBlueApplesEGirl wrote...



how is suggesting equality biased? Lol


Wanting a kit removed just because you don't like it, when it's perfectly relevant.
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Jamison5 wrote

KarliXon wrote...




So you want 7 melee ladders and 3 ranged ladders.

*claps slowly*


I honestly dont care if there is more melee than bow ladders, bow is *NOT* the main weapon in this game and that is clear - look at everyone playing nowadays, the main weapon in minecraft pvp is the sword, not the bow, it is unbalanced and I know it is like that, but you cant do much about it when the player count is gonna drop a lot if you replace melee ladders with bow ladders
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KarliXon wrote

Jamison5 wrote...



I honestly dont care if there is more melee than bow ladders, bow is *NOT* the main weapon in this game and that is clear - look at everyone playing nowadays, the main weapon in minecraft pvp is the sword, not the bow, it is unbalanced and I know it is like that, but you cant do much about it when the player count is gonna drop a lot if you replace melee ladders with bow ladders


Even if the player count drops, the players that remain will be the respectable ones that don't just melee all the time. And other people will join.
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so you are saying we need both UHC and Advanceduhc when nobody even plays uhc? Do you not think there is a reason why one was removed? Logic.
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Taking away some of the most played kits such as gapple and sg! Such a great idea!
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Jamison5 wrote

Alpha527 wrote...



It is very easy to kill every mob with a bow. Even with endermen, if there is nowhere to teleport to, you can kill them. It is also much easier to kill some mobs with a bow such as ghasts, (wither) skeletons, blazes and the enderdragon.


You can't kill the wither with just a bow so rip that argument.

Jamison5 wrote

Alpha527 wrote...



GApple and Ironsoup are very irrelevant, when in Minecraft would you have a stack of notch apples and not use them sparingly? To make 64 notch apples, you would need 72 stacks of gold (1 1/3 large chests) ingots/ores. When in Minecraft does mushroom stew eat instantly and heal your health? SG is redundant, it is a second kit with a rod and one of several where the bow exists but is limited or useless.


1- Debuff wouldn't be redundant. NoDebuff is redundant with Debuff imo because Debuff is just NoDebuff with the extra skills of debuffing + playing while debuffed.

2- Kits aren't based off of what you would encounter most in vanilla minecraft, they are adapted to develop skills for competitive pvp. GApple is there for long melee fights, soup is similar to gapple but easier to drop with the extra skill of hotkeying.

3- Despite point 2, GApple is based off of factions fights. God apples are easy to get on those servers and the fights are always long and tanky

I get you have your opinion on this @Jamison5_ , and that's fine ofc, but when you have multiple players who have played Arena for over a year disagreeing you might want to take their experience on board and try to understand why they disagree before putting the same arguments forward again and again.
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To be fair @Jamison5_ I like you. The amount of hate this has generated from the rod and melee community makes me want to give you a hug irl. Anyway +1 to adding another bow kit which is basically identical to uhc which makes it easy global but even I have to say you must keep gapple and SG.
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Jamison5 wrote

Alpha527 wrote...



They should be removed because they are redundant, irrelevant and/or they are never played

Dude I play Sg debuff gapples all the time on au and au has the least players on it
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This is really stupid you complain at jinxful because you say he is "biased" because he is better at melee but the thing is you remove SG because you are shit at it. And I am a balanced player not the best but a balanced one and I can tell you this suggestion is complete trash.
And this isnt the account I play global btw thats why I dont have stats
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Jamison5 wrote

Arrowless wrote...



Give me 2 good reasons you think SG is a good kit.

before badlion had build uhc sg was the most popular kit :/ its not a bad kit
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I think we should remove every ladder except Archer, and also remove everybody's bow except for mine.
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Mahteus wrote

Jamison5 wrote...


before badlion had build uhc sg was the most popular kit :/ its not a bad kit


Those were the days
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yeah remove gapple and sg great idea now people will only play build
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i think builduhc and nodebuff should also be removed ! 1 !1 !!
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Jamison5 wrote

Melee
BuildUHC
NoDebuff
Diamond
Vanilla

Ranged
Archer
UHC
AdvancedUHC
Iron

This reduces the amount of kits and also makes it even.


i like the kits how they are. Also sg is staying thanks.
Oh and skywars needs to make a comeback too.
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Jamison5 wrote

Jinxful wrote...


Looking at your stats, you benefit from the high amount of melee kits.


And looking at yours, you're only decent at archer. I think wha what would be best if this was to happen was to yeh sure add more bow kits to even it out, but you can't just remove amazing melee kits. Like keep gapple debuff etc but add more bow kits so it's even you know
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Jamison5 wrote

KarliXon wrote...




So you want 7 melee ladders and 3 ranged ladders.

*claps slowly*


Correct me if im wrong, becouse im centantly not good at bow, but how many more ranged ladders do you need? Long range(archer), Mid range(UHC), and Short range(Iron). And thats about it, in melee it least you can add different kits to make you play in different ways.

Also sg is one of the most important ladders and now only should stay but probably will say.
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