Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:18 AM

1. Whilst context would be nice, it's completely unjust of him to close and lock his appeal when he refuses to address his arguments MULTIPLE TIMES.

2. Trikeri had no previous forum punishments, and the ONE post he made that got him banned was "Gross", in response to a thread asking for feedback on the SSB Tournament Edition map. You seriously think that a post like that warranted a 7 DAY forum ban for his FIRST FORUM PUNISHMENT? Being a "higher up" member of the community is completely irrelevant. Every player on the network is supposed to be given equal punishments. The only exception to this are staff members, where they're specifically told in the Code of Conduct that they'll face harsher punishments for breaking the rules, since they're supposed to be the community's role models. If anyone but Last moderated that thread, he wouldn't have even been given a warning. It just goes to show how corrupt and incapable he is of moderating the forums.

Edit: The entire appeal, courtesy of Z3R0: https://imgur.com/iGEDsDL,6CKUzGY,F9Wo6Hz,5GWQOtd,DENTPBW,DnBTD4q#5

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:22 AM

You think they have any real power? All power resides in the higher-ups. They can try to influence the decisions, but like normal moderators, it's extremely rare that they'll change the final verdict.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:36 AM

You guys are completely missing this guys point. All he was saying is he has a staff position(ties to OCTC) and wouldn't speak on the matter because he knows it would come off as biased.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:43 AM

Why post at all then? It's not like anyone here was begging for a referee who has all but 0 say in ocn related things to come on and comment.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:45 AM

Basic Context (full album I linked somewhere on this thread): Last continually set "Greed", a 2 tnt autoignite map on Primed, which is completely not the place for it. He perma forum banned me for saying "Please don't set this on Primed ever again". In the appeal he even linked another one of my appeals and said "This is an example of how not to appeal"

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:48 AM

I completely agree to what you said about the Overcast Network.. They get asked a question or get a report by a non-premium and they completely ignore it. The same two previous things get asked by a premium and they gladly respond to it. I don't think these people realize the non-premiums are their future premiums. The only people who seem not to be biased are Administrators. But MasterGberry, if you can't control your staff on your server, this post won't do anything. I've had the same problem.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 11:56 AM

Well I just posted this on OCN forums and it was deleted by a staff member: https://i.imgur.com//zOljT6v.png for "No flaming please" I guess the community can't even see the truth.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 12:29 PM

No one was begging for you either. Burnt is right, that was merely a disclaimer that

a) I'm biased
b) I'm not allowed to speak much on the subject

To be clear, I wanted to open a discussion between the 2 communities but seeing as admins on both sides have told me to stop and I (naively) forgot about flaming potential, that's the end of that.

Also I request you give full context about your accusations/claims and complete screenshots of the entire appeal

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 12:40 PM

Okay, I'm a active member of this community and I have experience with the bias on this post. I think I have every reason to post here. You came here to make your first ever forum post simply to say how you were biased and can't really post.

Since you asked, i'll link the appeal, they have been posted at least twice in this thread already.

https://imgur.com/iGEDsDL,6CKUzGY,F9Wo6Hz,5GWQOtd,DENTPBW,DnBTD4q#5

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Posted on 25 February 2015 - 01:29 PM

It seems you missed his point. He posted something with points, while you merely said "OCN is discussing this right now."
Is what you said really a valid contribution? All I found out from your post is that you're an official representative refusing to comment on the matter. It's best not to post at all.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 02:15 PM

He didn't say anything negative or positive about the situation, he just brought up that ocn is discussing the post as well, and didn't give any opinions because he knew it would come off as biased. I don't understand why he's getting shunned for bringing that up. He wanted to be apart of this post, I see nothing wrong with that. Hell I'm biased as fuck towards Badlion, I hate every other server because I can't be assed to play them, but I still found the need to comment on this post.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 02:35 PM

Just a game guys, we're all here to have fun.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 02:38 PM

-SNIPPED because rude-

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 02:51 PM

No need to get shit your pants, I'm just trying to be real

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 03:31 PM

May I ask to what extent OCN will be barred from Badlion? Discussion? Usage of terms coined from OCN? Same thing for UHC.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 04:03 PM

I do the best that I can, and I have fired personally myself at least half a dozen staff members for various reasons such as cheating, abusive terms, racist actions, and such. I will always look over every individual case I am personally sent that someone wants the owner to look at and do my best to help if there is a problem that truly needs to be solved.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 04:04 PM

We will just not openly promote these communities or encourage conversations about them. That is pretty much the extent. If you guys say something in chat generally about them we are not going to act. If someone tries starting a huge debate/discussion in chat about them then we are more than likely going to ask you to stop.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 04:46 PM

I can´t agree more. As a long-time player of OCN (nearly 2 years) , I´ve seen a great change. When I was just starting to play staff was really good , and OCN was a great server with full matches , however , sometime when they introduced "dynamic servers" (just making OCN die) , staff started being generally dicks with appeals , I´ve myself got many friends banned for autoclicking when they did not autoclick , and after showing clear evidence (e.g showing block placing , mouse settings , clicks , etc.) they just ignored them and finally closed the appeal. OCN staff is now (mostly) shit in my opinion , i just play there for tournaments , which in the last few months have been a dissaster because of the badly-prepared Tournament Staff. Also , OCN does not select well-prepared staff , there is too many normal users that would be great staff members.

Just by these reasons , the player count has fell from 2000 to 500.

Posted on 25 February 2015 - 06:42 PM

To me it sounds like you're getting your knickers in a twist over one post being removed. And the fact that you're slacking off the moderator by calling him "too much of a coward" I find is very unprofessional. It also mentions in the subreddit rules; "The moderators have the authority to remove any post at their discretion", and they can remove any posts they feel don't suit the subreddit. Sure, a good amount of Reddit UHC players play on Badlion, but the PvP arenas posts you linked were made for the players of the subreddit, which Badlion isn't. Although to be honest, I think your post could have been let off, but we can't tell the moderators how to do their role, and neither can you. Besides you could have posted it to these forums where it's relevant or put it in our community post where (pretty much) anything irrelevant can go.

The bullets you made may be how you see "corrupted" moderation but different communities have different methods of moderation and if you don't like it just leave it. How you want your moderation to be doesn't give you a right to say how other communities should do their moderation team.

The first point says "If a moderator declares that they wish to remain anonymous then they are a coward and not truly a representative of the community." The moderators are listed in the sidebar, and what difference does it make whether they reveal themselves or not?

The second point: "Moderators treat certain members with special treatment." As I said earlier, Badlion wasn't created through or from /r/ultrahardcore, you're an entirely different community that shares players with Reddit UHC and OCTC players. I know you're not cutting players from these communities from your server, but I don't see why their forms of moderation is any of your business, corrupted or not. How these communities moderate themselves have nothing to do with how they moderate Badlion, so to me it looks like you're having a rant at these communities out of spite. (i.e. Because your post got removed/your staff are banned on another server.) Again, I'm not saying this is how it is, but how it looks.

The fourth bullet you've used the example of "deleting threads/posts off of a community site that they disagree with that the community agrees with." They're the moderators, they can remove what they like, and part of being a moderator is that you sometimes have to do something that your community may disagree with you doing, and again the subreddit rules are that "the moderators have the authority to remove any post at their discretion".

The final point: "Moderators who protect each other when someone is clearly in the wrong. The job comes first, always and foremost. If you side with someone who has done something wrong then you are just as corrupt as they are." I see this as a similar point to #2. "The job comes first", the moderators did their job by removing your post but according to you they are still in the wrong.

You're cutting ties with Reddit UHC and OCTC because a couple of you don't like how we run our own communities. You don't like the image our moderators give you but if you haven't noticed yet a handful of members from both communities don't have a good image of your staff either, but we don't slack you off in an announcement post. We remove one post of yours, and you go and cut ties from us, to me you're just merely overreacting to a single situation which I find highly unprofessional, Reddit UHC has done nothing to hurt you.