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Skywars is coming to Badlion
Posted on 26 July 2015 - 08:47 PM
TeaWhore wrote
@MasterGberry The solution to camping would be a map crumble where the map starts falling apart after a certain amount of time like in mineplex.
I would also suggest 128 player maps to be hosted like UHC's because after a while like on alll servers, they won't get as much players after the start and a elo system would be good too.
To make the skywars unique, add duels, the abality to make clans and duel opposite clans within the game, add an xp system which gets you a prefix and have something op in the middle to encourage the reduction of camping e.g a set of iron armour with a sharpness one diamond sword.
I would also suggest 128 player maps to be hosted like UHC's because after a while like on alll servers, they won't get as much players after the start and a elo system would be good too.
To make the skywars unique, add duels, the abality to make clans and duel opposite clans within the game, add an xp system which gets you a prefix and have something op in the middle to encourage the reduction of camping e.g a set of iron armour with a sharpness one diamond sword.
This would be a great thing to be added +1
Posted on 26 July 2015 - 10:18 PM
PLS NO KITS PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSS just start and get your stuff from chests and such, so no one has an advantage over someone else.Posted on 26 July 2015 - 10:45 PM
i think there should be like different types of gamemodes like UHC so it keeps it interresting and not the same constantly, whch is usually what draws me away from skywars after some time, i think alot more people would stay. if you guys like this idea maybe try and think of some game modes which would be fun in Skywars, im gonna start thinking abiut some myself aswell :DPosted on 26 July 2015 - 11:35 PM
trHowy wrote
I love skywars, I think it's a great idea, however one of the biggest problems in skywars is camping. I hope we could have some solution to this, be it a shrinking border or something else.
I think we could have all three of the amount of players.
Kits would depend on how the kits are gained. I think we could have a system were your kills are like a currency where you buy the various kits to use.
I think we could have all three of the amount of players.
Kits would depend on how the kits are gained. I think we could have a system were your kills are like a currency where you buy the various kits to use.
Yes, I agree on this. I don't have a solution to present but I do reckon something needs to be done for this situation.
Posted on 27 July 2015 - 06:37 PM
Kauai wrote
You should do 16 for solo 32 for team of 2 and never 128 because it kills peoples frames.
This is true, and as for my opinion. Unlock basic kits at win counts, make it high like:
-200 wins for full leather wood axe
-500 wins for chain chesplate and pants and stone sword.
- 1k wins for full iron no weapon
-1.5k wins for one enderpearl full chain
and you have like a chest gui where you can choose kits
Posted on 27 July 2015 - 08:01 PM
You should have a ranking system like Levels and "Elo" from pot pvp you gain elo from kills and more elo for wins once you are a certain level of elo you can do /rankup and it ranks you up to the next level it also unlocks the next levels kits.Posted on 28 July 2015 - 03:36 AM
i think you shout add all of the abovePosted on 28 July 2015 - 04:28 AM
Well, *cough* I'll be doing tons of recording of this!Posted on 28 July 2015 - 04:47 PM
HockeyOG_ wrote
/swparty , /sw duel , I would rather not use lobbys like sg, I think the ender portal would be better than just lobbies.
@pjalfredo can you elaborate on this?
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 04:53 PM
Arcanex wrote
HELL YEA :DD.
From my experience 16 and 32 players maps are great, they are not that long, and regarding camping they are also nice. I've also played many 64 players maps, i do like them but camping becomes a problem, you'd have to go island by island looking for players, underground, skybases… It becomes kinda tiring. And 128 players would be pretty much the same fun but tiring if you find many campers. 8 players map, if skywars here turns out to be successful, are useless imo. If the playerbase isn't decent then yea we could implement them, but they're really small.
I believe 16 players games are not big enough to make it a toX game, but higher like 32 could work. I have played skywars with friends and it's quite fun. We'd also have to implement the teaming rule here lol.
A way of preventing camping could be kind of a border shrink as UHC but with islands. In a 64 players map, there'd be 64 islands (starter), then 32 islands closer to the centre, then 16 , 8, and finally 1 which would be the centre and where the final fight could take place. After x time you are not allowed to be in the first 64, after x in the 32 and so on. You'd also have to include a border to stop people from bridging back. I see ups and dows with this system, but with some discussion we may be able to optimize it.
About kits, i personally like cubecraft's way. Everyone starts with nothing unless you choose a kit. There are free kits that you have access to from the very beginning, but in order to get the rest, you need points. You get these points by killing people and winning games, at least when i played it was this way, could of changed. The more you play, the more points you have, the better kits you have. (Donators could get point multipliers)
In addition to this, i'd make these few free kits change every week, just like the heroes you have access to without paying in games like HotS, i believe it will be better for everyone plus you can actually test kits before buying one. We'd have to discuss how kits are though, i remember back when i played skywars everyone got the tank kit (full iron armor) because it clearly outweighed the others, we should avoid that.
Someone mentioned overpowered players should play on different games, i hate that idea. We could on the other hand make skywars gamemodes, you'd choose by voting. There could be 3 or 4, easy, normal, hard and overpowered. In cubecraft these would affect chests' loot, but i believe it should also change kits. Builder kit (16 blocks iirc) in an overpowered game (there were punch III bows and arrows in the chests so you'd shoot people off in 3 seconds) was pointless ._. So kits in easy would be different from normal kits, hard kits and op kits. Everyone would be able to have the experience everyone is able to have, that's the point.
I'm looking forward to this, can see some skywars tourneys taking place :o. Hype!
(Wrote this on the phone, 99% sure it's a mess but whatever)
From my experience 16 and 32 players maps are great, they are not that long, and regarding camping they are also nice. I've also played many 64 players maps, i do like them but camping becomes a problem, you'd have to go island by island looking for players, underground, skybases… It becomes kinda tiring. And 128 players would be pretty much the same fun but tiring if you find many campers. 8 players map, if skywars here turns out to be successful, are useless imo. If the playerbase isn't decent then yea we could implement them, but they're really small.
I believe 16 players games are not big enough to make it a toX game, but higher like 32 could work. I have played skywars with friends and it's quite fun. We'd also have to implement the teaming rule here lol.
A way of preventing camping could be kind of a border shrink as UHC but with islands. In a 64 players map, there'd be 64 islands (starter), then 32 islands closer to the centre, then 16 , 8, and finally 1 which would be the centre and where the final fight could take place. After x time you are not allowed to be in the first 64, after x in the 32 and so on. You'd also have to include a border to stop people from bridging back. I see ups and dows with this system, but with some discussion we may be able to optimize it.
About kits, i personally like cubecraft's way. Everyone starts with nothing unless you choose a kit. There are free kits that you have access to from the very beginning, but in order to get the rest, you need points. You get these points by killing people and winning games, at least when i played it was this way, could of changed. The more you play, the more points you have, the better kits you have. (Donators could get point multipliers)
In addition to this, i'd make these few free kits change every week, just like the heroes you have access to without paying in games like HotS, i believe it will be better for everyone plus you can actually test kits before buying one. We'd have to discuss how kits are though, i remember back when i played skywars everyone got the tank kit (full iron armor) because it clearly outweighed the others, we should avoid that.
Someone mentioned overpowered players should play on different games, i hate that idea. We could on the other hand make skywars gamemodes, you'd choose by voting. There could be 3 or 4, easy, normal, hard and overpowered. In cubecraft these would affect chests' loot, but i believe it should also change kits. Builder kit (16 blocks iirc) in an overpowered game (there were punch III bows and arrows in the chests so you'd shoot people off in 3 seconds) was pointless ._. So kits in easy would be different from normal kits, hard kits and op kits. Everyone would be able to have the experience everyone is able to have, that's the point.
I'm looking forward to this, can see some skywars tourneys taking place :o. Hype!
(Wrote this on the phone, 99% sure it's a mess but whatever)
I really like some of the ideas here. Especially with the idea of having various free kits that change every few weeks. We would have to try to come up with a good 10 diff styles of kits and then rotate and have 2 available here and there.
The border shrinking would need some work, but with good map builds it would definitely be possible.
Interesting idea on just having different tiers of kits for different game modes. I like the idea of this also.
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 04:58 PM
SexyPro wrote
Hey guys! I love Skywars, it's my favorite game, and I have a lot of experience with it, so I hope you guys read this post carefully and reply:
So the basic things that should be implemented in this game are:
-Mods:
The first mod is op items and the second one is normal where the player chooses which one he likes to play.
-Score/coins:
You can guys make the scores like +50$ for winning a game and +10$ for killing one and it can be shown in chat next to the player's name like (+3495$)[D]SexyPro: hi. And no need to make it as an Elo System like the other ladders, it can be like other Skywars servers (losing -1$ for a loss/death).
-Some good skywars:
I got a lot of experience on many different servers and i found that Ultra Skywars is the best skywars mod, you can guys go check it on YouTube. Personally i like the Arkham Network's Ultra Skywars the most cause its really very fun :D
-Maps:
Making the 128 player is good idea but you need to make the map shrink after certain time cause the game with campers and specially on this big number of players will take a very long time, so shrinking will be good only on maps 128 players and 32 players.
-Stats:
Making /stats command showing you your kills, deaths, wins, loses, and your points is very good idea since so many players care about their stats and would like to see them in-game rather than going to their profile.
-Teams/ffa:
Putting teams will get you many players since there are a lot of players who team in this game, so you can make the 16 map player (2 players on one team so it will be 2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2 or 8v8 or ffa, and players can choose their teammates like using /party invite)
-kits:
kits is common idea on all servers, you can add kits but into 2 categories the free kits for donor either loin or normal donator cause if the server is pay to win then no one will like it, by the way kits for group donators will be the same as the non donors but the difference is that the donors get this kits for free and the non donors have to pay game coins so everyone can play with kits, and it is better that the kits only give slight advantages in the normal mod and a good advantage in the OP mod.
-Signs:
Sign are better than ender portal since you can know which map you will play or you can know how many players left and stuff like these.
So thanks for reading and i hope you take it into consideration.
So the basic things that should be implemented in this game are:
-Mods:
The first mod is op items and the second one is normal where the player chooses which one he likes to play.
-Score/coins:
You can guys make the scores like +50$ for winning a game and +10$ for killing one and it can be shown in chat next to the player's name like (+3495$)[D]SexyPro: hi. And no need to make it as an Elo System like the other ladders, it can be like other Skywars servers (losing -1$ for a loss/death).
-Some good skywars:
I got a lot of experience on many different servers and i found that Ultra Skywars is the best skywars mod, you can guys go check it on YouTube. Personally i like the Arkham Network's Ultra Skywars the most cause its really very fun :D
-Maps:
Making the 128 player is good idea but you need to make the map shrink after certain time cause the game with campers and specially on this big number of players will take a very long time, so shrinking will be good only on maps 128 players and 32 players.
-Stats:
Making /stats command showing you your kills, deaths, wins, loses, and your points is very good idea since so many players care about their stats and would like to see them in-game rather than going to their profile.
-Teams/ffa:
Putting teams will get you many players since there are a lot of players who team in this game, so you can make the 16 map player (2 players on one team so it will be 2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2 or 8v8 or ffa, and players can choose their teammates like using /party invite)
-kits:
kits is common idea on all servers, you can add kits but into 2 categories the free kits for donor either loin or normal donator cause if the server is pay to win then no one will like it, by the way kits for group donators will be the same as the non donors but the difference is that the donors get this kits for free and the non donors have to pay game coins so everyone can play with kits, and it is better that the kits only give slight advantages in the normal mod and a good advantage in the OP mod.
-Signs:
Sign are better than ender portal since you can know which map you will play or you can know how many players left and stuff like these.
So thanks for reading and i hope you take it into consideration.
Thanks for the feedback.
I would like to have both systems for XP/ELO. One to show who has no life, and one to show who performs the best. I feel that both are essential for players who aim towards each side of the tree.
We will definitely have teams/ffa, and teaming in FFA will be illegal as it is in other game modes.
I'm really not sure what we want to do about the Donator kit idea, I think we want to leave it towards multipliers, maybe we will give access to all of the starter kits to the Donators and then non-Donators have to use whichever ones are free that week. Keep in mind all of the starter kits will be relatively the same in strength. No idea on this one still.
As far as signs go I like the idea of our inventory system already, but maybe we will do signs for this game mode instead. It might make more sense and it's kind of easier to see more things at once.
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 04:59 PM
CheezyBaconPvP wrote
please dont add a progression system, one of the great things about badlion is that everyone is equal, no matter what, and you can just jump in to any game and have it an even playing field
I believe that progression systems are nice in the idea it gives you something to strive for. I am also with the idea of keeping things fair, but I think towards this game mode a progression system makes more sense.
I still 360 no-scope'd plenty of n00bs in COD with a lvl 1 account and smoking the lvl 70s
1337 :p
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 05:02 PM
What are people's thoughts of random events happening in some sky wars games?E.g. a bunch of explosions where certain islands blow up and become rubble or suddenly everyone has speed potion applied etc.
Trying to create some variety so that it's not the same thing each game all the time (like 1/100 games would have a random event). You won't know before joining.
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 05:12 PM
MasterGberry wrote
What are people's thoughts of random events happening in some sky wars games?
E.g. a bunch of explosions where certain islands blow up and become rubble or suddenly everyone has speed potion applied etc.
Trying to create some variety so that it's not the same thing each game all the time (like 1/100 games would have a random event). You won't know before joining.
E.g. a bunch of explosions where certain islands blow up and become rubble or suddenly everyone has speed potion applied etc.
Trying to create some variety so that it's not the same thing each game all the time (like 1/100 games would have a random event). You won't know before joining.
That would make for some really interesting gameplay! Maybe different events such as how UHC has different scenarios…
Posted on 28 July 2015 - 05:20 PM
MasterGberry wrote
What are people's thoughts of random events happening in some sky wars games?
E.g. a bunch of explosions where certain islands blow up and become rubble or suddenly everyone has speed potion applied etc.
Trying to create some variety so that it's not the same thing each game all the time (like 1/100 games would have a random event). You won't know before joining.
E.g. a bunch of explosions where certain islands blow up and become rubble or suddenly everyone has speed potion applied etc.
Trying to create some variety so that it's not the same thing each game all the time (like 1/100 games would have a random event). You won't know before joining.
This would be fun. Let's say in one event after a period of time, tnt starts to spawn. Which stops players from camping in their island for the whole game. Then another one could be mobs spawn at mid over a short period of time.
So hyped for this :P
Posted on 30 July 2015 - 07:36 AM
BOOM! UHC SkyWars :)Posted on 30 July 2015 - 12:44 PM
I would like there to be an op skywars and non-op skywars, /sw party could be something like you invite your friends and pick what map you would like to play on and not get just a random map. I think there should be some type of queue for that, or something that shows when that map will be ran next. /sw is something that maybe you could do 5v5 red rovers in skywars that would be amazing. Maybe some type of DM where you spawn in an arena, for people that are camping their islands, they spawn in an arena with no armour grace period 30 seconds to a minute, and there are tons of chests you get shit from, and you fight when the grace period is over. This is just an ideal. @MasterGberryPosted on 30 July 2015 - 02:46 PM
I would love progression of some sort, to keep me playing.Posted on 30 July 2015 - 03:32 PM
Also I would like a sky SG gamemode, where you start in the middle with like sg chests, and you build out to other islands for other chests.Posted on 01 August 2015 - 06:29 PM
Skywars in UHC mode! I think that can maybe add some different spice that other servers haven't used yet. In the teams of 5 skywars it's a game to see how many kills you get. Maybe making skywars much more into a skill and strategy game it may make it 'cooler'. That's what I think if someone has a argument please say it I'm open to different things.